CUT IT OUT !!! by Carl

StevieJ Designer/Artist Posts: 9575 Filters: 163	CUT IT OUT !!! by Carl http://www.filterforge.com/filters/5048.html Steve “Buzzards gotta eat.....same as worms....." - Clint :)
	Posted: January 31, 2008 8:16 am	Details E-Mail
StevieJ Designer/Artist Posts: 9575 Filters: 163	This one freaks me out!!! just kidding.....looks pretty neat!!! I was wondering how this would look under some surface lighting for 3D..... Steve “Buzzards gotta eat.....same as worms....." - Clint :)
	Posted: January 31, 2008 8:19 am	Details E-Mail
jffe Posts: 2317 Filters: 60	Cool filer. At first it looked horrible to me, like what is this crap, then my eyes adjusted 3-4 seconds later, and I could see the levels going on. jffe Filter Forger
	Posted: January 31, 2008 1:11 pm	Details E-Mail
Carl c r v a Posts: 5109 Filters: 51	Thanks for having a look guys, Dilla sort of pushed me into releasing this one out of my storage yard after posting the same concept in the " suggest new filters " thread, it was the third in the cutaway series after the last two reached the dizzy height of LU I abandon this one. I've added a switch for the option now for variable size, angle, colour and texture side walls on the pieces, which I'll release as an update, here is a sample of the new option I'm going to live forever or die trying ........Carl
	Posted: February 1, 2008 4:29 am	Details E-Mail
Crapadilla lvl 50 Filter Weaver Posts: 3187 Filters: 56	I like it, but... ...the drop-shadows can be done without the use of any blur components*, whose absence would - dare I say it - make the whole thing much faster! [* see my little 'addition' at the top of the filter tree] CUT IT OUT blatantly crappified !!!.ffxml --- Crapadilla says: "Damn you, stupid Mac beta!"
	Posted: February 18, 2008 4:47 pm	Details E-Mail
Sphinx. Posts: 462 Filters: 43	I like this one alot! Very cool It looks like there could be some advantages (regarding memory efficiency and maybe performance) by using the ARGB assemble trick and then process in "parallel" and extract channels finally for the blending part. See the DO's and DONT's articles.
	Posted: February 19, 2008 4:08 am	Details E-Mail
voldemort voldemort Posts: 788 Filters: 552	Quote Sphinx. wrote: I like this one alot! Very cool It looks like there could be some advantages (regarding memory efficiency and maybe performance) by using the ARGB assemble trick and then process in "parallel" and extract channels finally for the blending part. See the DO's and DONT's articles. Okay I ran this through 50 translation websites and finally decoded your secret alien brain sucking plan ha ha evil alien Im on to you no longer will your mutant q-tip be able to use my own ear wax to suck my brain I will be cramming my ears full of brocoli to prevent exactly this tonight And I finally figured out the cryptic reason why sane men put hamsters in their rear ends --they are anal probe watch dogs and so beleive me henry the hamster will have a new home tonight next dont think plan b will work either to prevent you from using my nose as an alternate method of obtaining my brain I will be filling my nose with toe nail clippings try succking it out now with out getting shredded by them Wisly my wife has told me if I do this I will be sleeping downstairs alone tonight --smart move on her part --this will help keep the family safe Oh wait just got a P.M from her lets see "" Dear husband I have assigned several ""secret agents to protect you tonight"" they bring a special protective white jacket that allows you to hug your self nonstopp --aliens cant stand it when you hug your self.. They also have several needles with drugs that will make you super human to protect you ... You will know them by thier white coats and butterfly nets ""the nets are for any airborne attacks"" look for their secret transport it is cleverly disquised as an ambulance. Me and the children will be prudently hiding in a third world nation and have deliberatly not forwarded the info so you cant spill the beans if they do succsseed in sucking out your brain with love --your wife Great move honey Ive been studying the masters at alien detection at the hospital apparently I should consider shaving my head as well seems to be the right thing to do also Im kind of confused as to why I need to drool alot but I will figure that out to so HA!! You and your alien Ilk shall not have my brain tonight sorry but I have to go those darn spiders are crawling all over me again p.s. next time try engllsh for the mentally challenged like my self lets all whine for a wine port
	Posted: February 19, 2008 9:31 am	Details E-Mail
Sphinx. Posts: 462 Filters: 43	wow
	Posted: February 19, 2008 10:23 am	Details E-Mail
voldemort voldemort Posts: 788 Filters: 552	Quote Sphinx. wrote: wow oh dont get upset the secret agents whent ahead and shaved my head and they said the electricity to my head will help protect agains brain scans +++ a big bonus --the drooling will follow shortlye lets all whine for a wine port
	Posted: February 19, 2008 10:43 am	Details E-Mail
Kraellin Kraellin Posts: 8795 Filters: 79	someone kindly inform volde's wife that he's off his medication again. thank you Ya can't sell art to artists! Craig
	Posted: February 19, 2008 1:50 pm	Details E-Mail
voldemort voldemort Posts: 788 Filters: 552	Quote Kraellin wrote: someone kindly inform volde's wife that he's off his medication again. thank youfilters, filters, filters... NO FILTERS FOR YOU!!! off my meds they must have hit me with at least 3 different needles lets all whine for a wine port
	Posted: February 19, 2008 2:10 pm	Details E-Mail
Kraellin Kraellin Posts: 8795 Filters: 79	Ya can't sell art to artists! Craig
	Posted: February 19, 2008 3:28 pm	Details E-Mail
Carl c r v a Posts: 5109 Filters: 51	Quote Crapadilla wrote: but... Thanks Dilla I have done as you suggested and resubmitted, your help has been greatly appreciated - sincerely Carl Quote Sphinx. wrote: I like this one alot! Very cool Thankyou, high praise coming from one of the top authors here, and I'm glad your back Quote Sphinx. wrote: ARGB assemble trick and then process in "parallel" and extract channels finally for the blending part. See the DO's and DONT's articles. I will have to find this do's and don'ts article - is there a filter that uses the trick you speak of so I can understand as I am not a technical person Quote voldemort wrote: Okay I ran this........ LMAO just a tip but Tin Foil wrapped around the head works for me, and a question do guinea pigs work as well as hamsters I'm going to live forever or die trying ........Carl
	Posted: February 20, 2008 1:24 am	Details E-Mail
Sphinx. Posts: 462 Filters: 43	Quote Carl wrote: I'm glad your back Been to Thailand for a few weeks - great trip! (I might post a few interesting pics.. ofcourse I couldn't help thinking about how to recreate different textures etc I saw in Thailand in FF ) Quote Carl wrote: is there a filter that uses the trick you speak of so I can understand as I am not a technical person Mmm.. yeah, but its not really that complicated. When you have a color in FF its composed of RGB and A (alpha), which also can be considered as four grayscale channels. Since the shadows are black only (the deepest grayscale shade), you can assemble up to four grayscale sources using Assemble RGB and Set Alpha - then you run this assembled line into ONE blur, and after the blur you extract the channels again using three extract RGB and one Get Alpha. Voila! You just removed three blur components this way. In other words, simply take three or four of your shadow pipelines and assemble them into a color before running that into a blur. While you may not experience any particular speedup with low resolutions, the filter will be much more memory efficient and have shorter initialization time (the time from when you click a preset to when FF actually starts rendering). Thing is that the channel assembling and extracting also costs something performancewise, so in general the more "parallel" operations you can stuff into an assembled line like described, the more significant the gain will be.
	Posted: February 20, 2008 1:59 am	Details E-Mail
Sphinx. Posts: 462 Filters: 43	Here's my "private" version of your filter - added some depth darkening, a few optimizations, a few new controls and the RGB trick. I also added yet another layer of cut outs - and it still runs faster Feel free to use whatever you want from it. Cut Out - Sphinx.ffxml
	Posted: February 20, 2008 2:12 am	Details E-Mail
Crapadilla lvl 50 Filter Weaver Posts: 3187 Filters: 56	The update displays excellent performance now, but... ... if you hook the 'shadow perlin noises' into the 'Background' input of the 'image perlin noises', you can even ditch the 5 blend components! Keep boiling it down! Also, I'd remap all the shadow noises' 'Roughness' parameters to a maximum of 25 (roughly half the max 'Roughness' of the image noises). Currently the shadows kind of disintegrate for high 'Edge Roughness' values. Furthermore, the 'Variation' control is kind of redundant, don't you think?! (look under 'Size,pixels' *hint hint*) Instead of that control, maybe you could give us 'Stretch' and 'Angle' controls for the perlin noises... Only then will the filter be "Certified Genuine Blatantly Crappified"! --- Crapadilla says: "Damn you, stupid Mac beta!"
	Posted: February 20, 2008 4:52 am	Details E-Mail
Kraellin Kraellin Posts: 8795 Filters: 79	and before i'd certify it, things would have to be displayed better within the editor. ALL filters are linear in progression. they shld show this so that others can follow them easier. this is actually one of the reasons i sometimes mod someone else's filter and they end up with zero credit in the usage stats. so, neatness counts! Cut Out - Carl - Sphinx - Dilla - rev 1 Craig.ffxml Ya can't sell art to artists! Craig
	Posted: February 20, 2008 7:59 am	Details E-Mail
Crapadilla lvl 50 Filter Weaver Posts: 3187 Filters: 56	Now you're splitting hairs ermmm... connections! Carl's original layout was very readable! --- Crapadilla says: "Damn you, stupid Mac beta!"
	Posted: February 20, 2008 8:13 am	Details E-Mail
Kraellin Kraellin Posts: 8795 Filters: 79	Ya can't sell art to artists! Craig
	Posted: February 20, 2008 8:44 am	Details E-Mail
Carl c r v a Posts: 5109 Filters: 51	Sorry for slow reply my internet been down [ you realise how much you come to rely on it ] Quote Crapadilla wrote: the 'Variation' control is kind of redundant All excellent suggestion which I will adopt with gratitude , clever getting rid of the 5 blends, and your right the edge roughness went astray [ more thanks ] the variation control is the only question - with the size pixel control it varies the size of the perlin noise [ basicly zooming in and out on the one pattern], with the variation control it changes the actual pattern Quote Sphinx. wrote: Been to Thailand for a few weeks - great trip! (I might post a few interesting pics.. ofcourse I couldn't help thinking about how to recreate different textures etc I saw in Thailand in FF I don't know what part of the world you live in but for me coming from an anglo culture, Asia is a fasinating alternative world FF gets under your skin and you start seeing textures every where you look Quote Sphinx. wrote: Here's my "private" version of your filter Excellent and it is fasinating how 2 clever minds approach something so differently, I thought I could use a different noise with yours and release a second version of Cut It Out!!! [ thankyou for showing that trick and the effort you put in I really don't know how you work these things out so cleverly ], and also directing me to the Do's And Don'ts thread which I was going to go back to now and ask for it to be Stickied for the brain challenged like my self Quote Kraellin wrote: before i'd certify it, Well I need full certification of course, I do try and keep them neat and play a little game with myself, this one was made to look like a Rocketship [ I know, it's sad behavior ] but I notice when you download it, the spaces close up, some even overlaping slightly Quote Crapadilla wrote: Only then will the filter be "Certified Genuine Blatantly Crappified"! I'm working on it I'm going to live forever or die trying ........Carl
	Posted: February 21, 2008 12:56 am	Details E-Mail
Crapadilla lvl 50 Filter Weaver Posts: 3187 Filters: 56	Quote Carl wrote: the variation control is the only question - with the size pixel control it varies the size of the perlin noise [ basicly zooming in and out on the one pattern], with the variation control it changes the actual pattern Question Smile Under the 'size, pixels' control we already have a 'variation' control that globally changes noise seeds, hard-wired for each and every filter on the library. Your 'Variation' control does the exact same thing, hence it is redundant. --- Crapadilla says: "Damn you, stupid Mac beta!"
	Posted: February 21, 2008 4:50 am	Details E-Mail
Crapadilla lvl 50 Filter Weaver Posts: 3187 Filters: 56	Quote Carl wrote: [...] but I notice when you download it, the spaces close up, some even overlaping slightly I guess Craig uses a different thumbnail size (large) for components and mistakes the resulting clutter for carelessness on the author's part. --- Crapadilla says: "Damn you, stupid Mac beta!"
	Posted: February 21, 2008 5:15 am	Details E-Mail
Carl c r v a Posts: 5109 Filters: 51	I must admit I thought that gave you further variations, then it is redundant with this filter and I presume that mean you'd only use controled variations if you had a number of variable components that you wanted to independently vary with out a global variance effecting all variance at once [ hope that made sense ] Quote Crapadilla wrote: I guess Craig uses a different thumbnail size (large) for components So the author choice is not passed on to the downloaders it defaults to the users selection while the Randomizer Settings are also default to the users settings, it would be nice for the author selections to be passed on to the user I'm going to live forever or die trying ........Carl
	Posted: February 21, 2008 8:15 am	Details E-Mail
Carl c r v a Posts: 5109 Filters: 51	Quote Sphinx. wrote: my "private" version of your filter I am using your Depth Darkening control that was a neat idea, I would have tried using the brightness and contrast component, thanks again I'm going to live forever or die trying ........Carl
	Posted: February 21, 2008 8:19 am	Details E-Mail
Crapadilla lvl 50 Filter Weaver Posts: 3187 Filters: 56	Quote Carl wrote: you'd only use controlled variations if you had a number of variable components that you wanted to independently vary with out a global variance effecting all variance at once Exactly! --- Crapadilla says: "Damn you, stupid Mac beta!"
	Posted: February 21, 2008 8:46 am	Details E-Mail

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