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SpaceRay
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I have seen the Doctor House Tv series intro credits and they have a great lovely graphic style that I like much and I found a plugin that makes it possible in Photoshop but is expensive.
Here is the full video to see the graphic style All 3 House M.D openers/themes/intros Here are some screenshots I have found as example
So I want to ask if you know and there is already some filter in the library that could do this kind of graphic style in FF. The possible nearest filters I have seen are: Film Noir by Carl
Analogue by emme
Bad Film by gws5597/URL]
[URL=http://www.filterforge.com/filters/4820.html]StevieJ's DreamScape - ColorTones
Foxxee's Mystic Mood Light
FOR ME NONE OF THIS GIVES THE EFFECT OF THE HOUSE INTRO This are very good filters but for me is NOT the same kind of effect, I find that this ones above are: more dark or more light than the House examples above, or not as good the gradient effect around the edges, or too much blur added, or change the original colors too much, and the shading of the colors is not the same from my point of view. So Please, I want to suggest if someone want to make this kind of filter that could be interesting and very useful |
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| Posted: May 25, 2012 3:21 am | ||||||||
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Morgantao
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What's the name of the expensive plugin you found that does that?
Looking at how it works may help create the filter in FF. |
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| Posted: May 25, 2012 5:18 am | ||||||||
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SpaceRay
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Well this comes from the company AutoFX and is the Mystical Suite
Mystical Suite I have not tried it myself and really do not know if this could give the same effect as the ones I have put from House TV series, BUT as they have many filters to make this kind of effects, I think that it would be possible. |
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| Posted: May 25, 2012 5:35 am | ||||||||
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Morgantao
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Oh, I see. You;d have to use several of their filters in order to get that style you wish.
I guess It could be done in FF, and would be simpler because you'de have to use only one filter. |
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| Posted: May 25, 2012 8:13 am | ||||||||
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Skybase
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Yeah Morgantao's pretty much got it. It's mostly just layered effects and the rest of it is really really having a good sense of design and a good eye. The filter's probably 10% of the whole effort. I assure you this is really just a string of adjustment layers in photoshop. You really don't need additional tools to do this at all.
Here's the potential breakdown of the filter just for starters: 1. Import image ---> pre filtering (curves or levels) ---> pre-hue/saturation 2. vignette (or any simple radial gradient) --> [multiply or overlay blend with hue/saturation] 3. use perlin noise and produce some grudge ---> [overlay blend to vignette] 3.5 ---> Add a blur with mask (may be slower to produce higher resolution blur.) 4. ---> color balance (separate RGB or HSL or LAB (if you really want to go hardcore) and use curves to adjust each channel. 5. Assemble each channel back to RGB, HSL, or LAB. done. The rest of it is tweaking the values around and that's what will get you the effect. |
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| Posted: May 25, 2012 10:28 am | ||||||||
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SpaceRay
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I have to say that I have never used the AutoFX plugins so I really do not know how they work and if it is used one or many filters, what I have seen is many examples made with this filters (that I do not know now where was it) and they were very similar to this ones from House intro credits. As you say very well, with a filter from FF would be easier and simpler.
Of course that the filter is NOT magic and will transform any image into the above examples, because you have to prepare everything and think ahead to be able to make this kind of designs and the filters is just ONE tool of the many needed. Is like a photographic camera, it does not make fantastic and amazing photos by itself, it is the photographer that is behind the camera that counts, you can have the most expensive and best camera and STILL do bad photos.
Thanks for your good tips,advice and suggestion, I will try to see what I can get. |
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| Posted: May 25, 2012 1:02 pm | ||||||||
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Morgantao
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LOL Sskybase, something tells me writing that starters breakdown took you longer than it would take you to just build the filter Thanks for the mini tutorial though, it's allways good to learn from the best |
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| Posted: May 25, 2012 3:13 pm | ||||||||
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SpaceRay
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Do not worry Morgantao I will upload the filter I am making already in alpha state for you if you want it following the suggestions from Skybase
Here is a early example, although needs more things and more work |
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| Posted: May 25, 2012 4:38 pm | ||||||||
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SpaceRay
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And the window built in image |
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| Posted: May 25, 2012 5:44 pm | ||||||||
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SpaceRay
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Garlic built in
I need to optimize it more and give more dirt and more impact, more lighting in certain parts, and more color degradation on the edges and more variation on the vignette and more things |
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| Posted: May 25, 2012 5:51 pm | ||||||||
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Morgantao
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I think if you want it to look closer to the House intro, you should use black and white sketches like the in medical textbooks.
Here's a google search that will show you many examples to test your filter on. http://www.google.com/search?q=anatom...0&bih=1029 |
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| Posted: May 25, 2012 5:56 pm | ||||||||
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SpaceRay
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Thanks Morgantao for the link to this very well done medical sketchs, although my intention is NOT to make a duplicate of the House medical design, just the graphic design filter effect, although is interesting and useful to have this for testing purpose and see if the filter looks similar to the ones above.
Also there is another very different way to search for medical inside body muscles, and is doing a search for daz 3d muscle maps |
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| Posted: May 26, 2012 1:34 am | ||||||||
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Skybase
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Well see, the whole "mini tutorial" thing I wrote is based almost directly off of my "Point and Shoot" filter. http://www.filterforge.com/filters/10007.html
Seems like you're getting there SpaceRay. |
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| Posted: May 26, 2012 2:09 am | ||||||||
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SpaceRay
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Thanks Skybase
Here is the filter I got until now in the alpha or beta version As said above it needs to add more things and perhaps will change some things and modify it more. House M.D. Effect.ffxml |
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| Posted: May 26, 2012 2:21 am | ||||||||
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Skybase
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lol it's pretty much a combo filter of bits and pieces from the previously mentioned filters haha. Sweet stuff. | |||||||
| Posted: May 26, 2012 2:31 am | ||||||||
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SpaceRay
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Thanks Skybase, yes although is mainly based on the Analoge filter by emme, I have also followed in some way your suggestions and have also seen how it is done in the filters above, and I will MIX more parts from others filter that I have found interesting to add more grunge and dirt. | |||||||
| Posted: May 26, 2012 3:00 am | ||||||||
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Skybase
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Here's some little bits and pieces that can be fixed sorta. Whatever. It's your call. |
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| Posted: May 26, 2012 3:20 am | ||||||||
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SpaceRay
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Thanks for the suggestions of this little bits and pieces to be fixed.
As I already said, I have still to optimize and clean the filter and see really if all the components are needed or there is a better way to do it, and if some things can be replaced or removed. You surely know what you are doing, and have the experience and skills to know much about the components and how to combine them in the best way, but I have to use the trial and error or see what happens if I do this or that, or if I add this or remove that. |
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| Posted: May 26, 2012 10:05 am | ||||||||
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Morgantao
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Good to know about the DAZ muscle search. I thought the effect you want is mainly for black and white drawings, that's why I searched google for that. If you want it to work on full color graphics then it's something else, and obviously the filter is different. I like what you have done so far. It's good to see you're getting more comfortable with the editor |
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| Posted: May 26, 2012 10:38 am | ||||||||
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Carl
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Film Noir can give you this effect |
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| Posted: May 26, 2012 11:37 am | ||||||||
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SpaceRay
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Yes, Carl As you probably have seen I have put your well done and wonderful filter in the first place of the examples, BUT after some testings I find that your filter is NOIR I think I will probably use your for my next project idea: Gigerizer (inspired in the darkly effects from the illustrations of H.R.Giger. |
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| Posted: May 26, 2012 11:42 am | ||||||||
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Carl
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Did a quick mod |
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| Posted: May 27, 2012 12:05 am | ||||||||
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Carl
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you can control darkness |
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| Posted: May 27, 2012 12:09 am | ||||||||
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Carl
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tweaked the tint |
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| Posted: May 27, 2012 12:29 am | ||||||||
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SpaceRay
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WOW!! Very good examples you have put, this are very nice and well done, with good effect and vignette and tint color | |||||||
| Posted: May 27, 2012 12:57 am | ||||||||
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Morgantao
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So when are we gonna get this filter in the library, SpaceRay?
Not that I'm trying to rush you or anything, just that it looks good to me And Carl, why don't you post the tweak too? |
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| Posted: May 27, 2012 4:43 am | ||||||||
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SpaceRay
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I do not know when I will be able to put this in the library, as I want to get as I want and I do not like much how looks now the vignette effect, and want to add also some more things, although surely will be within this week.
Yes please, Carl, you can upload the update to the library, will be good. |
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| Posted: May 27, 2012 5:17 am | ||||||||
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Carl
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You know what it's like, I started by just seeing how film noir stacked up against "house" and slow got sucked into making a filter |
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| Posted: May 29, 2012 10:52 pm | ||||||||
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SpaceRay
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If you see my first post you will be able to read that this was a suggestion for someone of youthat would want to make this kind of filter that I think it could be useful and interesting. So I do not mind at all if you do it and even better coming from someone like you Carl. Great that you a done a NEW filter and not just an update to the Film Noir, and most surely is that I will like it I know what is like Thanks for making this filter and taking my suggestion into a new filter |
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| Posted: May 29, 2012 11:16 pm | ||||||||
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SpaceRay
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I have been busy making my own version of the filter and I AGREE WITH YOU, when you start to make it, and also got sucked into adding more and more things and get it better with more options and without making it out of control and bloated thing. This my Vintage Retro Mystical Photo effect |
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| Posted: June 3, 2012 3:12 am | ||||||||
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Morgantao
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Nice Effect on that flower |
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| Posted: June 3, 2012 6:52 am | ||||||||
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SpaceRay
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Thanks Morgantao, glad you like it. I want and wish to be able to finish this for tomorrow so it gets in the library, but really I am getting some bad problem with the crackles texture overlay that gets a bad effect, but think that willbe able to solve it. Also some problem with two blend modes that gives bad results and have to change it. | |||||||
| Posted: June 3, 2012 3:10 pm | ||||||||
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