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#07: I think this is my favorite use: crystalline glowing pics of architecture...

Posted: February 4, 2010 1:25 pm

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#08 ... or you could go into the 'light mode' and make a kind of stylized sketch.

Posted: February 4, 2010 1:27 pm

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CorvusCroax

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Here's the source for both those last two...

Posted: February 4, 2010 1:27 pm

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tigerAspect wrote: I am so stoked for the new Spacehulk. The previews were one of the things that convinced me to buy FF.

Hey, cool, tigerAspect. If you do something cool with it, post it here... I love to see what ppl are doing w/ my filters. (Also so I can make more along those lines.)

Posted: February 4, 2010 1:41 pm

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Targos

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CorvusCroax, some totally amazing artwork here. Its great to see the source images used.
Did you ever complete the Pipes filter? right at the start of your thread.

Keep up the great work

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Posted: February 4, 2010 8:17 pm

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ys75

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Thanks for submitting Spacehulk v2! Seeing your work was what got me to finally buy FF last week.

Posted: February 4, 2010 10:34 pm

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Skybase

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These are brilliant smile:)

Posted: February 4, 2010 11:42 pm

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StevieJ

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Very nice..... smile8)

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Posted: February 5, 2010 11:29 am

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tigerAspect

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Spahehulk v2 is awesome! Just a quick question, what happened to the version with the nifty round bits?

Posted: February 5, 2010 1:03 pm

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Kraellin

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interesting idea, corvus and interesting application of that idea. looking forward to a play with that one smile:)

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Posted: February 5, 2010 2:26 pm

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Spahehulk v2 is awesome! Just a quick question, what happened to the version with the nifty round bits?

I think thats v3. He said he may release it after his game. I'm looking forward to it as well!

Posted: February 6, 2010 1:03 am

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CorvusCroax

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Thanks for all the encouragement guys!

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ys75 wrote: I think thats v3. He said he may release it after his game. I'm looking forward to it as well!

Yep, that was my plan. I'm using that for a game project. By the time it comes out I'll probably have a v4 spacehulk. smile:)

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Targos wrote: CorvusCroax, some totally amazing artwork here. Its great to see the source images used. Did you ever complete the Pipes filter?

Thanks Targos. re: pipes... Well, I stopped working on it. I couldn't figure out a way to get nice clean 3-way joints. That's all much more do-able in V2, with bombers. If you'd like I can post the FFXML file here.

My ambition is to do a more complicated 'Random Steampunk Machine' filter, along similar lines to the Spacehulks. Similar, but all pipes and rivets...

Posted: February 8, 2010 11:48 am

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Kraellin wrote: interesting idea, corvus and interesting application of that idea. looking forward to a play with that one

Thanks Kraelin: I wish it worked better. I've been trying to figure out some FF - way to do some basic shape and corner recognition. (any ideas much appreciated!)

Any thoughts on the edge finder filter's name? I can't very well call it 'edge finder'. Maybe 'Crystalize Lines' or something?

Posted: February 8, 2010 11:54 am

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try bombers with a shape component as the particle input. make your shape a straight line or nearly so. put your image component on the tint input... that might get you started... or throw you off completely. not real sure; i'd have to play with it some... or a lot. it does, what you have already, make a nice effect, though. it's sort of like some of those old starburst/sunburst thingies which highlighted and starbursted those points. that's all i got. you've probably already gone past all that, but what the heck, ay? smile:)

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Posted: February 8, 2010 1:31 pm

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What I'm doing now is to take a regular gaussian blur, and a motion blur, then calculating the difference. So, where it's not different = lines in the direction of the motion blur. I do that 4 times: 1 for HZ, Vertical, and a double for the diagonals. So the controls can make sense, have to have pairs of blurs w/ same radii. The cool thing is that it pulls out the color, and brightness.

I think w/ the bomber mode, it would be more monochrome, but it's probably worth a try.

Posted: February 8, 2010 3:23 pm

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Kraellin

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wow. way more complex than i thought it would be. i'll go back to sleep now and let you figure it out smile:)

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Posted: February 8, 2010 11:02 pm

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On the forums, someone asked for a 'twilight colorization' filter. Took a whack at it: Came out pretty good, if a bit inflexible:

Posted: April 4, 2010 10:54 pm

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CorvusCroax

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here's the original, for comparison:

Posted: April 4, 2010 10:55 pm

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CorvusCroax

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I think i need to intensify the effect. it works good on some images as-is, but other it's kind of tame.

Posted: April 4, 2010 10:56 pm

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CorvusCroax

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I think it works best w/ a sort of really overcast lighting.

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and the standard lifesaver

Posted: April 4, 2010 11:26 pm

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Kraellin

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interesting, isnt it, how much the same filter can differ from image to image. i often make a filter for a single image and then rarely use it on others.

btw, nice smile:)

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Posted: April 4, 2010 11:45 pm

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Kraellin wrote: interesting, isnt it, how much the same filter can differ from image to image. i often make a filter for a single image and then rarely use it on others.

Yep...The filter looks great for one image, maybe two then others turn out to be not so good with the same filter..Even if you've tweaked it... smile:)

Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times!

Posted: April 6, 2010 5:24 pm

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CorvusCroax

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Here's something else I've been playing around with: creating a filter that takes an arbitrary image input, and places it around using bombers. In this case, I'm feeding it 4 brush stroke image inputs, and it places them around the image, simulating a painterly effect. I think the image inputs make for better particles than anything I could make using FF. (that is more like brushstrokes.)

Was doing it in 2 bomber passes, but it was crazy slow.

The brushstrokes rotate with the hue, and has a control on it for more chaos.

Posted: April 6, 2010 7:22 pm

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here is the input mask I'm using. It comes in as a selection on top of the image. The filter breaks it into 4 particles, which are they placed based on the source image.

Posted: April 6, 2010 8:33 pm

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CorvusCroax

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This makes it a bit clearer:
You can see the number shapes a bit clearer

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004: using a bit more crisp input map. (the thing in the lower right corner is a mini version of the map)

Posted: April 6, 2010 9:22 pm

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StevieJ

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CC.....second to last looking really good..... smile8)

Steve

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Posted: April 7, 2010 2:08 pm

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CorvusCroax

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Hey, thanks SJ.

The hard part seems to be getting it to show more small bits in areas of high frequency detail. That's sort of what that one (and 004) does, but it's not quite working satisfactorily yet.

Posted: April 7, 2010 8:31 pm

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I would suggest trying a surface result and adding some height/paint thickness to end of stroke.....and a little reflectivity.....like in those heavy oil paintings..... smile:)

Steve

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Posted: April 7, 2010 11:13 pm

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Hmmm... interesting. That's probably worth a try: The trick is that you can only load in the the single grayscale channel of the selection,(the rgb is the underlying image) so you'd have to give up half of your source images to get a separated channel for that.

The other problem is that to get the fine detail, the image is made up of 2 bomber passes, with one creating the rough background and another creating the detail. The detail one is set to overlay to combine with the back. That wouldn't work as well w/ a solid surface approach, and the detail would have to come some other way.

Posted: April 9, 2010 12:26 pm

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CorvusCroax

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Playing around with making a bolted hull plate. Think I figured out how to do offset edges pretty well: just take two 'minimum' components w/ different radii and blend them together using difference. Creates a nice easy inset.

Now if I could just figure out how to filter for corners...

Posted: April 9, 2010 12:43 pm

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Playing around with Mortex, updating it to FF2.0. Added bolts, made the lights use HDR lighting, etc. Added a nice group of components which create the plate offset, based solely on the the height map. Bolts are showing up a bit in the wrong place, and I need to implement the technique used above.

Posted: April 9, 2010 1:28 pm

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Mortex 002

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Mortex 003

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Mortex 004
boy, the AO really helps these

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tigerAspect

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Dear god I want that filter SO HARD.

Posted: April 9, 2010 9:13 pm

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Kraellin

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nice, corvus smile:)

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Posted: April 9, 2010 10:12 pm

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CorvusCroax wrote:
The trick is that you can only load in the the single grayscale channel of the selection,(the rgb is the underlying image) so you'd have to give up half of your source images to get a separated channel for that.

The other problem is that to get the fine detail, the image is made up of 2 bomber passes, with one creating the rough background and another creating the detail. The detail one is set to overlay to combine with the back. That wouldn't work as well w/ a solid surface approach, and the detail would have to come some other way.

True.....could just try isolating the stroke edges.....might work because using full stroke detail might be too much anyway.....

Second metal form pic does it for me...... smile8)

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tigerAspect wrote: Dear god I want that filter SO HARD.

LOL..... Sounds like a sadomasochistic filter demand..... smile:|

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Posted: April 10, 2010 1:29 am

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CorvusCroax, when I one-day get around to making my 2d scrolling shoot-em-up, I think you've pretty much done all of the artwork for me with your filters. Just cut some nifty shapes from those textures, slap them on a grassy background and POW, instant "retro shump enemy bases"

Awesome job, though the rivet pattern feels still a bit "grid-ey"

Posted: April 10, 2010 3:16 am

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ronjonnie

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Hey CorvusCroax,

VERY COOL!

Have a GREAT day! smile:)

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Posted: April 10, 2010 7:01 am

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CorvusCroax

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tigerAspect wrote: Dear god I want that filter SO HARD.

Here you go. Be warned: it's a big 'ol mess. And crazy slow. Definitely a work in progress.

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Kraellin wrote:nice, corvus Smile

Thanks!

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ronjonnie wrote:VERY COOL!

Thanks!

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KGtheway2B wrote: ... Just cut some nifty shapes from those textures, slap them on a grassy background and POW, instant "retro shump enemy bases"

Thanks! Actually that's pretty much what I do: although I load these as displacement files into zbrush and use the clip plane to separate out interesting shapes.