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Kraellin
Kraellin

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ghislane, RIGHT click on his link and then pick "Save Target As...". that will open a small window where you can browse to the location where you want to save the file to. i'm not going to try and list all the various options for the various versions of windows and apple, so you'll have to know where to save it to. and, if your browser is like mine, you'll also have to add ff to the file extension. mine only shows it as .xml and not .ffxml like it shld be. so, be careful of that one, too.
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!

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Romaq
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That's pretty much how I got it into my library. Perhaps it will show up in the FF library soon. smile:)
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Ghislaine
Ghislaine

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Hello Kraellin

Same for me in my pc, it is just shown in .xml But when I look in my library, all the filters are named with numbers before the .ffxml extension. So this one has no number but just a title. Do I have to rename by just insert ff before the title ?
I'm lost.

Also thanks a lot for your help. I really appreciate. smile:)
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Romaq
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Rename it as "Solidfy cImitationg.ffxml" and save it somewhere on your computer, then while running Filter Forge you can double-click the filter to 'run' it. You may be able to simply double-click the .ffxml to run Filter Forge, but my FF3 Beta is out-dated, so that's how I forced it to invoke FF2 by running it ahead of trying to open the .ffxml file. smile:)

Once it shows in your library, you don't need to keep the filter around anymore.
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Kraellin
Kraellin

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ghislaine,

if you're running windows 7, when you select "Save Target As...", navigate to your user account and open up "appdata--> roaming--> filter forge3--> my filters" and put it in that folder and make sure you change the file extension to .ffxml . you shldnt have to do anything else to it.
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!

Craig
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Ghislaine
Ghislaine

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Hi Kraellin

I have done all what you wrote. Before I had to create a folder "my filters" because there was no folder at that name. So I right click on the filter (in this page) and save where you told me. And I just had (after the filter title) .ffxml

But "my filters" do not appears in FF3. (Oh, I have created this folder in "system folder". The problem is that when I click on this filter, this opens in xml. So I cannot use the filter. I must have do something wrong. Do you think so ? smile:|
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SpaceRay
SpaceRay

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Please Ghislaine, take a look at this I have put just now here in this other thread and will probably help you --->

http://filterforge.com/forum/read.php?FID=8&TID=8908

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Ghislaine wrote:

Same for me in my pc, it is just shown in .xml But when I look in my library, all the filters are named with numbers before the .ffxml extension. So this one has no number but just a title. Do I have to rename by just insert ff before the title ?


Are you using Internet explorer?

Please, do not use IE 9 to download .ffxml files if you do want to have problems and errors downloading.

Use instead Chrome, Opera or Firefox instead to download FF .ffxml files. and is much easier to do, JUST click ONCE over the filter link, and will open a new window asking where do you want to save it and then click over the file to run it and is installed automatically inside the "my filters" in FF
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Kraellin
Kraellin

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hi ghislaine,

what version of FF do you have? is it a version that allows you to use the editor? the 'my filters' folder may only be created with a version that uses the editor or it may be that that folder is only created once you use the editor. not sure. but, if you have the pro version and you've used the editor, you shld already have had a 'my filters' folder where i said. if not, then there's something wrong. and no, you cant just create the folder in windows explorer and have FF see it. that wont work. it has to be created by FF. just one of those goofy things with FF.

and if the filter is in the forums here, you must right click and 'save target as...' or you'll just open another window with the filter in text form.

again, if you just have the basic version, which doesnt allow filter creation with the editor, then you may not have a 'my filters' folder. i dont know; i've only ever had the pro version, but that's where user-made filters go, in that folder and FF has to create the folder.
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!

Craig
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Ghislaine
Ghislaine

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Craig, I have the PRO version and have "my filters" folder in FF2. But not in FF3. So I think that the error comes from there. I have to save the filter in FF2, not in FF3. I will try once again in this way.

I thank you very much for your help.


SpaceRay :
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Are you using Internet explorer?



Yes, I use IE9. Since I changed my pc, I just use IE9, but with my old I had firefox too. So, I will install Firefox in my new one.

Thanks to you. I appreciate your help.

You are nice guys here, at FF. smile:)
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Kraellin
Kraellin

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ghislaine,

have you made any filters in FF3 yet? if not, that may be why there is no 'my filters' yet. try making a filter in FF3 if you havent and see what happens. just any silly thing to test this.
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!

Craig
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Ghislaine
Ghislaine

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Craig,

No filters yet. But you have a good idea. For now, I'm studying the processus and trying to memorise a bit the components. there is a lot of things to learn. It is a bit different than others softs like Genetica. But one thing is very helpful : it is to follow the logic. Because, in fact, it seems to me a logical question.

I'll spend the week to study and practice. When my fisrt homework will be done, I'll let you know what will going on with filters in "my filters". I will start, as said, with an easyone.

Thanks Craig. smile:)

Have a nice week !
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Kraellin
Kraellin

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you're welcome smile:)
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!

Craig
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W.B.
W.B.
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I've used the GIMP(a Linux opensource graphic application) one of these days.There is a maze generating plugin for the GIMP.It can generate all kinds of mazes,which is magical and artistic.
[img]http://www.fiveoclock.de/album/peace-solution_110501095427/peace-solution.png?w=1024&h=768[/img]
[img]http://www.fiveoclock.de/album/orthogonal_110501163802/orthogonal.png?w=1024&h=768[/img]
[img]http://www.fiveoclock.de/album/smiley_110501163807/smiley.jpg?w=1024&h=768[/img]

And here is a web one of it.You can generate mazes just on the web.

What I really want to say is,is anybody can write a filter for FF to do this.There is a math compoment containing the lua agorithm code within FF.And the GIMP maze project has the open code source written in C.
Lua inherit C's features.Any body can turn it into Lua script for an FF3 maze filter?

Here is the code.It can be unpacked with WinRar.It's worth if anyone can do that.I can't do it until my programing ability catches that someday. smile:(
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W.B.
W.B.
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I've used the GIMP(a Linux opensource graphic application) one of these days.There is a maze generating plugin for the GIMP.It can generate all kinds of mazes,which is magical and artistic.

The maze exhibition site here smile;)

And here is a web one of it.You can generate mazes just on the web.

What I really want to say is,somebody can write a filter for FF to do this.There is a math compoment containing the lua agorithm code within FF.And the GIMP maze project has the open code source written in C.
Lua inherits C's features.Any body can turn it into Lua script for an FF3 maze filter?

Here is the code.It can be unpacked with WinRar.It's worth if anyone can do that.I can't do it until my programing ability catches that someday. smile:(
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SpaceRay
SpaceRay

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W.B. the image links that you have put above and do not work is because you have copied the full URL link and the forum is expecting that the last thing is only the image extension and NOTHING else more after that.

Here I have put the same link that you have put ending in .png and delete all afteward



But the link without the data after the .png does really not work because it tells the size it should be and so it will not be shown at that size.

The Create-A-Maze page is very interesting and curious, and works very well.

And what would be REALLY GREAT is what you suggest, to be able to make a MAZE MAKER Filter in FF.

The mask image is really very good option and works great, this remembers me of the other great software that creates photo collages around a given mask image = http://www.shapecollage.com/collages
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CorvusCroax
CorvusCroax

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Someone should make Kirby Dots!

http://www.theycamefromhollywood.com/...kirbydots/

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SpaceRay
SpaceRay

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I have seen something interesting in an amazon advertisement that could be a good idea to make a FF filter

You can see an image here

And here is a MUCH BIGGER version that you can see in more detail, use the zoom if needed as it has 1400 x 1400

MUCH BIGGER Version

I do not suggest to fill the very small circles with other images as this could be probably much difficult to make, What I have thought for a FF filter is to convert the base photo into all those hundreds of very small circles, and those circles would be filled with the bits of the source image.

Perhaps something like this for example as shown below that I have filled the above photo with a rainforest photo to show as an possible example



This is the photo source base

And here below could be the FF filter result (this has been made by me in photoshop) although this is a BAD example because I have used the source of the photo above, in the real filter ALL the circles would have been from the photo and there will not be any kind of light difference as seen here.

And the difference between making this with a simple black mask overlay in Photoshop is that in a FF filter the circles could be in different sizes and more crowded and less crowded as you could choose

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SpaceRay
SpaceRay

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I think that the above example can be misleading and misunderstood so I have made a new example of what REALLY you would get with the FF filter as shown here.

Of course that the face shape seen here below would NOT be part of the FF filter smile:D only the forest photo would be taken as source image

Well, The above example is not as bad as I have IF THE SOURCE have a white background, so the white background would NOT be filled with the small circles, or also if it has a transparent background.

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W.B.
W.B.
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smile:) Splendid work indeed!That can be one of the best FF filters.Looking forward for your submiting!
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SpaceRay
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W.B. wrote:

Splendid work indeed!That can be one of the best FF filters.Looking forward for your submiting!


Sorry, is this for my suggestion ? If yes, thanks for your comment, and is true that it could be a splendid work, but perhaps you have thought that it´s me who is going to make this filter, BUT I am sorry to tell you that I will not be able to submit it because I have done all this above in Photoshop and not in FF, I would really like very much to learn to make filters and share them here, but I am very sorry that I can´t in this moment.

This is why I have put the above suggestion in this thread so any of the really experts and skilled persons that would like the idea and want to make this filter possible.
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Ghislaine
Ghislaine

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I would really like very much to learn to make filters and share them here, but I am very sorry that I can´t in this moment.


Hello Spaceray

I did not used the filter editor the first 7 months and I have missed something good and funny. For me, it was like Chinese langage. But one folk here (Craig) with his kind words, has pushed me to start to learn filter editor. Another thing was helpful to force me to work with the filter editor : it is the fact that I did not see in the filters library things that I was needed. So I started to create filters and I have discovered that it is not chinese but very funny. And today I'm proud of me because I sale what I have created.

Every day I discover new things with filter editor. Most of the time, I try to create something and this is given to me something else that I like and keep.

But it exists a problem : we cannot change the title of a filter. I mean that if I start a new filter and that I have no time to finish it, I save the filter with a title, but when I continue this filter and it gives me something else, the first title is no good anymore. We must have the possibility to change the title of a filter that is not finished.

This trick is helpful to learn : you try one by one components and give different output and input, etc, and see what this done. Sometime this gives good surprises.

I look forward for your future filters. smile:)
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Betis
The Blacksmith

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^ FF Success Story smile:D

Also you can change the filter name. It's a little hidden, but inside the filter editor, go to Filter > Edit Filter Info... or you can press Ctrl+I
Roses are #FF0000
Violets are #0000FF
All my base are belong to you.
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Ghislaine
Ghislaine

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Hi Betis !

Thanks a lot for this precious info ! I appreciate very much ! smile:)
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Sharandra
Filter Forge Addict

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Ray, aren´t there Filters already who create that effect?

If not, I guess something like this is what you are after?

Picture Dots.ffxml
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Casual Pixels
Dilettante

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Interesting images of salt formations in and around the Dead Sea

Dead Sea Salt Formations

Sample image



It strikes me as very FF-able...
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ddaydreams
Frank Hawkins
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I would like a filter forge filter that does something like Esoterica Blobs fr om corel painter.
It basically creates random holes (aka blobs)in a picture such as the picture at this link.
Effect I would like
You can control min and size and amount of holes.The holes kinda push the underlying picture out of way so the picture flows around the holes so that the holes can fit in nice rather than just cutting a hole.

What would be nice is even more control over hole placement, option to just make a few clicks where you want the holes to be and edge detection option so that no holes wind up cut off on the picture edge.

Also pixalbender for photoshop has a filter called HOLE that does something similar but with just one hole at a time with precise placement of the 1 hole.

Oh yes and no one has the option to mask an area in your own shape (such as a star or a square)and have that shape drive the picture outward and around it so that the picture flows around the masked area hugging it's outer contours kinda like the holes effect

If thar be a filter mister up to that, it would be really cool.

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Betis
The Blacksmith

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Bombers and refraction have their grubby little hands all over this one smile:D
Roses are #FF0000
Violets are #0000FF
All my base are belong to you.
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Morgantao
Can't script

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I doubt there's a way in FF to have both a random number of holes AND manual placement of holes.
If you have a set number of holes (say 5 or less), you can use X,Y offset sliders for each hole. However if you want lots of holes, or a random number of holes, you can't place them manualy.
I guess the best solution would be having 5 holes in the filter (with an on/off checkmark for each), and if you need more you just apply the filter again, putting the holes in other places. Rinse and repeat as needed. smile:)
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ddaydreams
Frank Hawkins
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I doubt there's a way in FF to have both a random number of holes AND manual placement of holes.
If you have a set number of holes (say 5 or less), you can use X,Y offset sliders for each hole. However if you want lots of holes, or a random number of holes, you can't place them manualy.
I guess the best solution would be having 5 holes in the filter (with an on/off checkmark for each), and if you need more you just apply the filter again, putting the holes in other places. Rinse and repeat as needed. smile:)


1 filter for the 5 hole manual placement would be good.
Then a separate filter for random more holes.
Then a separate filter that can do a custom shape hole defined by a mask.
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CFandM
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I doubt there's a way in FF to have both a random number of holes AND manual placement of holes.
Sounds like a job for bombers and some switches for that one....You could blend the bomber and the offsets together to create both....Or you could have a switch to have the user select between the manual or random....Just would have to make a separate branch in the filters tree for those....
Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times!
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giZZy
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Would it be possible to have a filter that would make an object spotted? I work a lot with ladybug type images and it would be awesome to have a filter that would make a 3d object spotted.

Maybe be able to choose the color of the spots and whether or not to keep the original color of the image.

I have looked and looked for a filter that would come close, but I just haven't found one yet.

Thank you so much for the awesome filters you guys have already created smile:)
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Morgantao
Can't script

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....Just would have to make a separate branch in the filters tree for those....

Sounds like a plan!
When will you release it CF? smile:D
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CFandM
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When will you release it CF?

I am still working on that typographic filter so after that one... smile;) smile:dgrin:
Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times!
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ddaydreams
Frank Hawkins
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I am still working on that typographic filter so after that one... smile;) smile:dgrin:


Cool! looking forward to the holes filter smile:)
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krix
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I have a couple suggestions/requests for filters.
I've been looking for "ball pit" - and "kitty litter" (both clean and dirty!) in seamless form.

if either of these already exist I can't seem to find them
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Morgantao
Can't script

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I made a ball pit filter, just for you (and the rest of the world)!
It's gonna take a couple of days to come up in the library, but here's a picture of the 9 presets it's gonna ship with.

Hope you enjoy it smile:D

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SpaceRay
SpaceRay

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Ghislaine wrote:
Hello Spaceray

I did not used the filter editor the first 7 months and I have missed something good and funny. For me, it was like Chinese langage. But one folk here (Craig) with his kind words, has pushed me to start to learn filter editor. Another thing was helpful to force me to work with the filter editor : it is the fact that I did not see in the filters library things that I was needed. So I started to create filters and I have discovered that it is not chinese but very funny. And today I'm proud of me because I sale what I have created.


After many years, I have been afraid to learn about making filters in FF because of the high complexity of many filters, and like you it sounds like Chinese language.

I also have started some months ago to begin looking at the interiors of some filters, and see how they are built, and how they do it, and many times I feel overwhelmed and shocked with SO MANY nodes but then I have seen that also very nice filter are simple and could be done easily with a few nodes.

If you can do it, I think that I can start to learn too.

Your words, and some others things I have read from other beginners have motivated me to push myself and see if it is so really complicated, AND I can begin little by little and start making simple things. An Architect does not built the Empire Estate buiding in his first job. smile:D

ALSO like you, I am being pushed and forced to work and learn the filter editor, because I want to make some effects but they are not yet available in the filter library.

AND a third reason, is to be able also to contribute with my own filters to the community as they have given a lot to me and want to give it also something to them.

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Ghislaine wrote:

Every day I discover new things with filter editor. Most of the time, I try to create something and this is given to me something else that I like and keep.

This trick is helpful to learn : you try one by one components and give different output and input, etc, and see what this done. Sometime this gives good surprises.

I look forward for your future filters


I have just began to make my own first filter by discovering things and modifying and adding a snippet and looking in other filters how something is done. Although I have very little time, but I will try.

Yes you have first to learn the components, and then try and mix then in a wise way and test what happens.

Thanks for having hopes on me, and wanting that I can also make filters that you would like to see. Let´s see when I can make and send my own filters.
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Ghislaine
Ghislaine

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Cool Spaceray ! First, you must keep in mind HAVING FUN when you try or create filters. I have hopes on you for sure.

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AND a third reason, is to be able also to contribute with my own filters to the community as they have given a lot to me and want to give it also something to them.


It is also my third reason. smile:)
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CFandM
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ddaydreams Wrote..
Cool! looking forward to the holes filter

Eventually.. smile;) smile:D
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SpaceRay
SpaceRay

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Do you remember this beautiful holes filter suggestion ?



Well, I have seen that today someone had submitted a filter with something similar here ---> http://www.filterforge.com/filters/10295.html

Yes, I know IS NOT at all the same and is not what have been suggested because here you do not have any control on how the holes are made, are just random, and also are NOT just holes likes this ones, is like more like a chemical reaction than just holes.

I am putting this here, if ddaydreams could perhaps be interested in this well done filter.

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ddaydreams wrote:
I would like a filter forge filter that does something like Esoterica Blobs fr om corel painter.

It basically creates random holes (aka blobs)in a picture such as the picture at this link.
Effect I would like

You can control min and size and amount of holes.The holes kinda push the underlying picture out of way so the picture flows around the holes so that the holes can fit in nice rather than just cutting a hole.

What would be nice is even more control over hole placement, option to just make a few clicks where you want the holes to be and edge detection option so that no holes wind up cut off on the picture edge.

Also pixalbender for photoshop has a filter called HOLE that does something similar but with just one hole at a time with precise placement of the 1 hole.

Oh yes and no one has the option to mask an area in your own shape (such as a star or a square)and have that shape drive the picture outward and around it so that the picture flows around the masked area hugging it's outer contours kinda like the holes effect

If thar be a filter mister up to that, it would be really cool.
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ddaydreams
Frank Hawkins
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Do you remember this beautiful holes filter suggestion ?



Well, I have seen that today someone had submitted a filter with something similar here ---> http://www.filterforge.com/filters/10295.html

Yes, I know IS NOT at all the same and is not what have been suggested because here you do not have any control on how the holes are made, are just random, and also are NOT just holes likes this ones, is like more like a chemical reaction than just holes.

I am putting this here, if ddaydreams could perhaps be interested in this well done filter.

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ddaydreams wrote:
I would like a filter forge filter that does something like Esoterica Blobs fr om corel painter.

It basically creates random holes (aka blobs)in a picture such as the picture at this link.
Effect I would like

You can control min and size and amount of holes.The holes kinda push the underlying picture out of way so the picture flows around the holes so that the holes can fit in nice rather than just cutting a hole.

What would be nice is even more control over hole placement, option to just make a few clicks where you want the holes to be and edge detection option so that no holes wind up cut off on the picture edge.

Also pixalbender for photoshop has a filter called HOLE that does something similar but with just one hole at a time with precise placement of the 1 hole.

Oh yes and no one has the option to mask an area in your own shape (such as a star or a square)and have that shape drive the picture outward and around it so that the picture flows around the masked area hugging it's outer contours kinda like the holes effect

If thar be a filter mister up to that, it would be really cool.



Thanks for mentioning that
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SpaceRay
SpaceRay

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Perhaps could be a Tangram shapes creator, I mean to have a filter that could have all the shapes included in the Tangram, and then be able to:

mix them in different ways, and could be used as shapes for bomber component and multiply them in many ways,

OR use them as shapes to include photos of them inside,

or to convert a photo into a Tangram collage (making that the whole photo is divided with many tangram shapes combined toghether)

Or to use the tangram shapes to combine them to make other more complex shapes,

Or use the tangram shapes to build a puzzle like collage with colors.

Here are some interesting examples

http://www.mathematische-basteleien.de/tangrams.htm

Many examples can be found in a Google images search as seen in this link here
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Romaq
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I need to create a filter based on some pretty precise math, and I'm not clear on how to go about this. I have manually created the following image using Blender:



You can easily use FF to split the red, green and blue channel of the above image for reference. The blue channel is the Z axis, which for this particular sculpty image does nothing. The red channel determines the X axis location and the green channel determines the Y axis location in a manner something like this:

I'm actually using Filter Forge to inject 'noise' into this image to create folds and ripples into what is known as a sculpty. You could think of a sculpty map as something like an object space normal map. The problem is my starting point, and the fact I had to 'manually' create the source image above instead of using math from Filter Forge to create the image, which of course is the whole point of FilterForge... procedural generation. smile:)

Ignoring the blue (Z axis) channel which is flat, I need to create a red and green channel based upon a grid like the following:



Taking just the red channel only, the very center flows smoothly from full black to full on. The edges of the top & bottom go from about 35% to 71% (calculated as sin (45 deg)/2 to sin(45 deg). I tried to calculate how the gradient flows from, say, 75% from the top, left to right, but my knowledge trigonometry fails me at that point. But I do know if you take the red channel I described, then rotate it 90 degrees and use that for the green channel, use 50% lumin for the blue channel, you get a procedural version of the image at the top of my post without the errors I introduced attempting to do this manually. As a cool side benefit, I hope to create better 'noise' in the resulting image for things I would like to do.

If this is trivial to do procedurally, I would be grateful for a snippet. Even just guidance on how to take a profile gradient and control the top/ bottom values (and smoothly blending points in between) while leaving the center of the gradient alone would be helpful to me. I would like to work on sculpty generation filters that would have a surface diffuse map matching the volumetric noise I put into it.
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ThreeDee
Lost in Space

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Hi Romaq,

Sculpty map, first attempt

Took your reference grid and managed to make it this far.

It still needs another sine curve somewhere to make it more exact.

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ThreeDee
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