FF Text with FF BG by uuk

FF Text with FF BG by uuk
http://www.filterforge.com/filters/3928.html

yeah...I have to agree with Ahimsa.
Its one thing to be inspired by a filter and find a way to improve on the original and then submit it....but to simply take the filter and throw something on it just to make it slightly different is really not cool at all.


Same with the Truchet Tiling by uberzev, which is pretty brilliant in my opinion....and the added beveling really does not do much for it, and really makes it look like you are trying to get better rankings simply by riding on the back of other peoples work

Ukk Hi ya...

((advice to help you out of the pickle you've gotten yourself in))

You've got to get out of the habit of using other peoples filters... try one from scratch... or use one of your own originals as a base... maybe even some snippets then give the snippet artist credit.

I have seen you are ready to work hard... because I've seen you in the recent filters list... alot... so take that hard work and apply it to original filters. You could start with a clean slate by asking FF to remove some of your filters... up to you... but I could see you turning this around by making original filters... or at least filters with your base only and snippets...

You are new so I'll chalk it up to that, but now that filter artists have told you it's taboo... hopefully you will brush yourself off... get back on that horse and this time make some original stuff... sound good?

Now it's true I don't flame... but I am serious... no more other peoples filters stuff okay? ((I agree with Ahisma and Rawn on this... this is bad)) ((and also I can't use your filters when they are like this))

LOL Crapadilla~

havent looked to make a comparison, but he does credit byRo and Ken.

i'm also reluctant to chastise, even if it is only a small improvement. if it is an improvement, then it is an improvement and the whole idea here is to have the best filters possible. even the licensing of the filters goes along with that.

and, i shld point out, these posts are exactly why some filters that DO need upgrades, will never be touched by anyone, though they shld be.

now, i know as artists and particularly photography, graphics and music artists are keenly trained NOT to use other's works, i think there is a LOT more leeway here in FF filters. please, read the submission license before we jump too hard on someone...if you can get past the legalese.

and saying all that, i still think the ethical thing is to give credit where credit is due and that 'tiny' upgrades are rather questionable. it's tantamount to stealing the attention from the original in order to gain your free copy or to just gain a bit of attention. i've done tiny upgrades to a few, but i normally just post them here in the forums or just use them on my computer, not try to replace the original work in the library.

and as someone who has used others filters as a base for a new one (see my recent silver surfer), i have no problem with re-working someone else's filter IF i'm going for something specific, a particular aspect of the original (which was the case with silver surfer), or IF i can make a SUBSTANTIAL improvement or alteration or IF i'm combining more than one filter into a new, single filter for a new look or IF i'm cutting out superflous components and effects in a significant manner and IF i give credit to all who contributed.

just bear in mind, that this is dangerous water as evidenced from the responses above. and, that it's often polite, if not mandatory, to notify, if not actually ask, the person whose filter you're fooling with. i didnt in the case of steviej and his filter and 'silver surfer' because steve has made it pretty clear to me in the past that this would be ok and has even pushed me towards doing this with several of his. voldemort is the same way. he's made it pretty public that anyone can do anything with his filters and he wont mind.

but again, i havent actually looked at the filters in question, so i'm just posting this as 'general advice to all'.

I work sometimes for days creating a filter and to know that it's ok for someone to come along and maybe just change a setting or add a simple tile background and then upload it as their own makes me not want to share any filter I make that takes more than a few minutes to create.

I think the big problem here is that there is an ongoing competition with regards to people being able to get a copy of FF for free if they have several HU filters. For this reason people can (and with good reason) be a bit protective over what they produce as a filter here.
Obviously this is not an issue to filter forge as a company because all that matters to them is that this software is being used and growing in popularity.
So this sets up two dynamics that are not sharing completely the same goal. Sure everyone wants filterforge to grow, but also the individual creator here would like to get the benefits of their work in the way of High Usage filters.
This potential for getting a high usage rank is greatly hampered when someone puts out a filter using their creative base, and putting it as a new release. Alot of new people to the site will probably not dig too deep to find the original filter, and if there is a cheap knock-off that does somethign similar, that may be good enough for what they need, and then the chance for the original filter to get another notch towards the HU is lost.

Now that I have my 3 HU filters, I am not that protective over what I submit here, but I would still like to get more HU, so I can have this working on both my computers instead of just my home machine....and if someone knocks off something I already have growing in popularity, and really does nothing to improve on it...then it does get annoying....and if someone is doing that repeatedly, then their tactics really need to be looked at.

Since I have not been here for a couple of months I was going through some older posts. First let me say a BIG Thank You very much ahimsa for starting this post....I would have never had known otherwise.
I don't mind if anyone uses any part of my filters for any reason. Thats why some of the filters that I create or post are made..Just slapping a different color or background on it is a different story. Such as the case with ubers Truchet Tiling...


To uuk---To be inspired you have to be open minded...To be inspiring you have to work your
arse off......
This text method was created for a purpose and a reason. You can still use it but maybe use it to create a different text style or maybe improve upon the method...One other thing you can look at
also is the history behind it...This can be found here....
http://www.filterforge.com/forum/read...d=224578#m

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