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CFandM
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Fr om another thread...Thought I would post it here.......
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In this neck of the woods we don't have any real re-sale shops smile:| no such thing as a yard sale smile:( and no pawn shops smile:cry:
The closest thing we have is a flee market, but that's nowhere near wh ere I live...
To make things worse, almost no one here has a garage or a shed to work in or store shop ecuipment. I always read online tutorials of how to do stuff and can't do it because I don't have a saw bench, a drill stand, a vice etc. smile:cry:

The hacks and mods I did manage to do, still require me to get super close to my subjects. Never got a mod to work right more than an inch or so from the subject.

Looks like its ebay.. smile;) smile:D
Well thats no fun..Thats alright I don't have those either. I use cardboard and matte black electrical tape..Or black duct tape if you can find it...Need a good pair of scissors or a utility knife for slicing....btw paper towels rolls or cardboard rolls can work also you just need to double or triple those to a good thickness....They don't last as long as the plastic pipe but theres no power tools involved... smile;) smile:)
What type of camera do you have Morgantao?.....
Heres the macro lens I made with that projector...Its wrapped with cardboard and electrical tape....Don't mind the dirt...Have not used it in a week.....Need to clean....This allows me to stand a little less then a foot away from the subject..
Then here are some examples..
Bug resting on top of a blade of grass
Flyhead

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Morgantao
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I actually have a bunch of cameras that I have accumulated over the years.
Some are older than me, and are just for my collection,
a few pocket cameras,
a tiny 110 film SLR,
a good Canon film SLR (too bad film quality these days is worse than 100 years ago),
a bunch of crappy digital cameras that can't compete with cellphone cameras anymore that I got for free (one of which I converted to an IR camera),
2 digital pocket cameras (one of which was clogged with sand and the cost of fixing it was high than a new camera, so I fixed it myself, and it works fine now),
around 6 compact digital cameras (The kind that look and act like DSLR but with fixed lense), starting with a 12 year old 3MP x10 zoom (Bestest of it's kind when it came out), and ending with a new Finepix HS30 (well, it's my wife's, but I use it too),
and last but not least, a Canon 350D (EOS Rebel XT) which is a proper entry level DSLR. It's about 6 years old and can't be compared to what's on the market today.

Say, when you put on the custom lense, do you use the zoom on the camera at all, or is it more of a fixed zoom? Can you use it combined with Macro mode?

I love how you used low teck cardboard to make the fittings. When I was a kid I built a fairly high power microscope out of a surveyor's scope lenses. I made two cardboard tubes that could slide in and out for different focal length, the problem was that every time I slid the tubes in\out i'd get tiny floating cardboard particles stuck in my view smile:D
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For macro photography with the DSLR I tried using several solutions, including a reversed 50mm lense, macro ring filters, weird lense combos...
All of them required me to get so close to my subject, that I'm affraid to breath, so it won't get stuck in my nostril!
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love your insect pics CF, inspiring, I've got 2 rectangular lens out of an old B/W enlarger I'll have to have fiddle with them to see if I can get something to work smile:)
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love your insect pics CF, inspiring, I've got 2 rectangular lens out of an old B/W enlarger I'll have to have fiddle with them to see if I can get something to work smile:)

Thanks Carl...hmmm....Those would be interesting to see the results...How big are those lens?...

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For macro photography with the DSLR I tried using several solutions, including a reversed 50mm lense, macro ring filters, weird lense combos...
All of them required me to get so close to my subject, that I'm affraid to breath, so it won't get stuck in my nostril!

Yep tried that at one point...The reverse lens does work pretty good but ya it does require getting to close to the subject...It makes it harder to not scare the subject..Don't wanna be scaring those bees.. smile;) smile:)

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I actually have a bunch of cameras that I have accumulated over the years.
Some are older than me, and are just for my collection,
a few pocket cameras,

Thats a nice collection of cameras to play with....That fuji is the best one I have as far as digital....I also have a ole CanonFT that I used when there was actual places that processed film...

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Say, when you put on the custom lense, do you use the zoom on the camera at all, or is it more of a fixed zoom? Can you use it combined with Macro mode?

When making the macro lens I zoomed out the cameras lens to the point of its maximum zoom....I then measured this and put the projectors lens that far into the macro lens holder..So that leaves room when the lens is connected to the camera for zoom operation....So in other words the lens itself is fixed but I can zoom with the cameras zoom....You can see the difference with that one pict I posted..(the bug on the blade of grass)...

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I love how you used low teck cardboard to make the fittings. When I was a kid I built a fairly high power microscope out of a surveyor's scope lenses. I made two cardboard tubes that could slide in and out for different focal length, the problem was that every time I slid the tubes in\out i'd get tiny floating cardboard particles stuck in my view smile:D


hehe...Yep the cardboard makes it a lot easier to modify the fittings at a later time. Or just to even custom fit anything right on the spot...There is no big todo involved with powertools to get something to fit...
Damn Particles... smile:D smile:)
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Don't wanna be scaring those bees..

Honey bees are actually very easy to photograph, if they're busy enough collecting nectar they don't seem to care if I accidentaly bump into them with the lens (That's how close I have to get).
Hornets and wasps... Let's say they only one I ever managed to take an extreme closeup picture of had a little too much beer, and didn't care about much smile:D

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So in other words the lens itself is fixed but I can zoom with the cameras zoom...

Yeah, I didn't think you had a motorized cardboard fitting smile:D
That projector lens, is it basically a high power magnifying glass?
I have to try this sometime with a lense I have. Being a foot away from the subject is way better than a qurter of an inch. Most insects are camera shy at this distance, especialy ladybirds.

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Damn Particles

You've seen them too, huh? Floating lazily in mid air between the lenses... smile:|
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chuck is our own mcgver. give him a paperclip, some chewing gum and a flashlight battery and he could probably rig up a nuclear device somehow smile:D
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You remind me of a guy on youtube that explains how he built an electron scanning microscope at home.... smile:?:
The craziest part is he makes it sound so simple, except for the part he admitted it took him 3 month to get it to show an image.
He's all like: "So I took a long brass pipe, and stuck the electron gun inside, then you can see here the 2 plates that act as lenses for the electrons, all it needs is around 800 volts and you're set, then here I put some washers to make more stable, and then I added some ribbons to make it pretty, La Di Da".... smile:D

But seriously, if you look at his microscope, it looks like a bunch of scrap metal and plastic the about 2 feet tall, but it actually works.

Oh, and he also shows you how to build a geiger counter at home, make an X-Ray tube at home, so you'll be able to test the geiger counter, and so on...


Also, reminds me of David Hahn, the nuclear boy scout. He built a nuclear reactor at his mom's back yard. smile:dead:
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chuck is our own mcgver. give him a paperclip, some chewing gum and a flashlight battery and he could probably rig up a nuclear device somehow smile:D

As long as its not watermelon gum then I could do something with that.. smile:D smile:D


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Yeah, I didn't think you had a motorized cardboard fitting smile:D
That projector lens, is it basically a high power magnifying glass?
I have to try this sometime with a lense I have. Being a foot away from the subject is way better than a qurter of an inch. Most insects are camera shy at this distance, especialy ladybirds.

hehe..Yep it is basically a high power magnifying glass...Which btw some magnifying lenses work pretty good as well..Just need to watch out for the sun glare and that light reflecting off the glass when using a flash... smile;)

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You've seen them too, huh? Floating lazily in mid air between the lenses... smile:|

If you don't notice them right away you'll defiantly see them later when looking at the images.. smile;) ooooo!! What kind of bug is that?...Oh wait a minute its only cardboard.. smile:D smile:)

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But seriously, if you look at his microscope, it looks like a bunch of scrap metal and plastic the about 2 feet tall, but it actually works.

dang now I have to go look that up... smile;) smile:)
I did try this at one time...
http://golembewski.awardspace.com/
But then the scanner stopped working at some point...It was a beat-up scanner and worthy of taken apart....But then just never tried it again....To lazy to find another scanner..
Actually if you look at the early images on that site it might be a cool ideal for a filter as well...
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dang now I have to go look that up...

Here's his channel. This guy built several of my long childhood dreams, like a fulid dynamics coffe table (Shows up poorly in the video though), cloud chamber, scotch tape X-Ray machine... smile8)
http://www.youtube.com/user/bkraz333?feature=watch

Yeah, I've seen a few of those scanner cameras on the internet. While the overall quality of the photos isn't that great, you get cool effects on moving subjects smile;)

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As long as its not watermelon gum then I could do something with that

Watermelon gum? Yuck!
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Cool, thanks Morgantao I will have to check that out.. smile8)
hehe yep watermelon was pretty bad...They even had an apple....Just as bad.. smile:|
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I'm liking this discussion guys .... Reminds me of my old 35mm days ... I jury rigged lots of crazy stuff ... my favorites were using a door spy lense as a fish eye and a big multi fresnel lense to create effects in video ... It is fun to hear about other folk's great on the fly ideas ...... Oh yea, I built a robot from an oil drum when I was a kid(It didn't move much but I put a speaker in it's head and convinced some little neighborhood kids it could talk).....
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the lens are 115 x 85 mmm and something odd happens when the lens is a certain distance from the camera, the image in the projectors lens is upside, the camera captures it the right way up, very strange as I can see it upside down from exactly the same distance ...... I get some shot up smile:)
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If I understand you correctly you mean that if you look with your eye through the lense, you see it upside down, but when you look at the same thing from the same distance through the camera you see it right side up?
If that's the case, it's because the camera lense probably flips the image a second time, so it comes up the right side up, while your eye doesn't flip it.
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the lens are 115 x 85 mmm and something odd happens when the lens is a certain distance from the camera, the image in the projectors lens is upside, the camera captures it the right way up, very strange as I can see it upside down from exactly the same distance ...... I get some shot up smile:)


Cool thats a decent size...Yep..Its like taken a magnifying lens and looking though it at a good distance from the eye..The image flips upside down..Then place another one in front of that it will flip it right back up...Also the human eye sees some things different then some cameras especially when it comes to the images flipping in certain lenses...


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I'm liking this discussion guys .... Reminds me of my old 35mm days ... I jury rigged lots of crazy stuff ... my favorites were using a door spy lense as a fish eye and a big multi fresnel lense to create effects in video ... It is fun to hear about other folk's great on the fly ideas ...... Oh yea, I built a robot from an oil drum when I was a kid(It didn't move much but I put a speaker in it's head and convinced some little neighborhood kids it could talk).....


Did you charge to see and hear the amazing talking robot?......hehe.. smile:D
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Great discussion on a subject that fascinates me (macro photography)! smile:)
I did some experiments in that area using cheap close ups, but was never happy with final results! smile:cry:
I'll certainly try those diy tips! smile;)

Thank you for sharing those valuable infos here!
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Yep....I always found this another fun area to play in as well...
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