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Gregor909
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Is there a PDF version of the help file available anywhere?
I would like to read the manual on my portable mediaplayer! Thanks |
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Posted: November 6, 2009 11:34 pm | ||||||
Carl
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I may be wrong but I don't think there is a PDF version
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Posted: November 7, 2009 7:20 pm | ||||||
GMM
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Unfortunately no PDF version at the moment, though we may consider it in the future.
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Posted: November 9, 2009 6:12 am | ||||||
Gregor909
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Ok thanks.
Maybe I do it myself if have some spare time and doesn't take me too long. |
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Posted: November 9, 2009 9:13 am | ||||||
SpaceRay
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As many other things, this has NOT happened yet, and this was written in 2009 !!! It seems that FF inc. did not consider important and essential to have a PDF manual that you couold have with a index and BE ABLE TO PRINT IT and so you could learn much better having it outside the computer and not have to be switching windows to see the instructions and see what components do what and how to configure them. I think that nearly 95% of the software that you can buy comes with a PDF guide or manual to be able to use the software and learn about EVEN if there are also online help and video tutorials. One of the other softwares of that 5% that ALSO DO NOT HAVE PDF manual is Genetica. |
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Posted: January 22, 2012 2:41 pm | ||||||
Morgantao
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You don't understand SpaceRay, they are doing it to save the planet
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Posted: January 22, 2012 3:53 pm | ||||||
SpaceRay
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I understand it very well, and I agree with you, I want also to save the planet and save lots of of trees, that is why I was asking for A PDF MANUAL not a PRINTED MANUAL ![]() Even Adobe after paying thousands for their software DO NOT give a printed manual, so I would never expect to have a printed from FF Inc. ![]() BUT I do not bother, I am making the PDF MYSELF !!!! You will see soon how. |
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Posted: January 22, 2012 4:21 pm | ||||||
SpaceRay
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I know that FF Inc. will not take the time to make a PDF of the FF Help website
So I have started to make a offline copy of the FF webiste HELP part and so then using a HTML to PDF converter, I would be able to have a PDF copy of the HTML that contains the FF HELP, and so it will be MUCH better to browse. I have tried to make it also in MS WORD but is much more difficult because it does not copy the format of the pages well, so it is not the solution. When I have I will share it here in the forum if anyone else wants it. I suposse that FF Inc. will allow to put the PDF file of the Help website here. |
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Posted: January 23, 2012 1:22 am | ||||||
GMM
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We provide the manual in CHM and HTML formats. Anyone willing to convert it PDF can do this in a few mouse clicks: Convert CHM to PDF Convert HTML Help file (CHM) to PDF |
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Posted: January 23, 2012 4:47 am | ||||||
SpaceRay
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Hello, GMM, thanks very much for your answer Please, where is the CHM version of the Help Manual ? I have been looking in the downloads of the website, inside the FF installation, on the wiki and on the help pages, and there is no reference for this CHM version. Please could you be so kind to tell where can I get it ? I think that to convert the CHM file would be MUCH better than converting the HTML files Thanks very much for your help |
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Posted: January 23, 2012 5:10 am | ||||||
GMM
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SpaceRay, I suppose you are on the Windows platform (Macs don't support CHM)? On my office machine the CHM file is located in the c:\Program Files\Filter Forge 3\ folder.
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Posted: January 23, 2012 5:17 am | ||||||
SpaceRay
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I have found it !!
It is called Compiled HTML Helpfile (hence CHM) ![]() As you say very well is inside the main filter forge program installation Thanks Now I will try to convert it to PDF |
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Posted: January 23, 2012 5:19 am | ||||||
SpaceRay
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GMM, There are problems with the CHM to PDF program you have put
Universal Document Converter software 1 - It does NOT convert the whole CHM file, you have to convert it chapter by chapter and can´t sel ect to convert ALL, and this is because it depends totally on the "print" driver and this does not allow select ALL. 2 - EVEN selecting ONE chapter is does not work right, I have selected the "components" part and it got frozen after 267 pages and did not work anymore. 3 - IS NOT FREE, and puts a very big black seal watermark on EACH page. 4 - IS very expensive for what it does, I would NOT pay 69$ for just converting files and using it only once in a while (I could use it probably to convert other CHM files) www.freepdfconvert.com/convert_help_file_to_pdf.asp It puts me that the Filter Forge Help file is invalid ![]() ![]() Also it have a limit of 10 MB file result, and the resulting file will be much higher than that 10 MB, so even it it would work and read the file it can´t process it because it is too big. _______________________________________________________ Here below is the big black seal watermark fr om the universal converter ![]() |
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Posted: January 24, 2012 2:44 am | ||||||
GMM
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SpaceRay, Google finds dozens of CHM to PDF converters. Do you really want me to test them? Try Zamzar or Convertfiles or anything else.
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Posted: January 24, 2012 4:29 am | ||||||
SpaceRay
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Yes, I want that you really test them ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() (Sorry is a joke, you do not have to do it) I did not tell you before that I have already tried 8 different converters found on google and none of this worked as it was supossed and did not do the conversion right, OR it do BUT had a big watermark, limitation in pages could convert, text deleted from some pages because is a demo, or pages missing because is a demo, or other things, and the non free I found are expensive to buy from 40$ to 129$. I would pay ony 20$ for this I will keep trying to find a way to be able to do it in some way. |
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Posted: January 24, 2012 12:06 pm | ||||||
SpaceRay
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Ok, try the next candidate, convertfiles, it worked right and made the whole conversion very easily and fast, downloaded the result AND ..... AND..... SURPRISE....Happens exactly the SAME as above !!! ![]() ![]() |
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Posted: January 24, 2012 12:33 pm | ||||||
Morgantao
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I'm guessing Microsoft came up with the CHM file format. That would explain the problems in converting it.
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Posted: January 24, 2012 2:20 pm | ||||||
SpaceRay
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I have already tried 12 CHM to PDF software and none of them gives good result.
I have also tried to convert it first to HTML and then use a HTML to PDF, but I did not get they chapters joined toghether and was also not useful and had also other problems. I have also tried to convert to CHM to HTML and then HTML to WORD, but although this worked now all the pages are totally separated by chapters, so I have around 60 folders with .DOC files and none of them are linked toghether and would be also very difficult to merge them toghether. I am now trying to convert CHM to WORD and see what happens I have found an excellent and perfect software for converting CHM to WORD and made the conversion VERY WELL, very exactly and with everything right, without any watermark or limitations, and I was very happy BUT when I went to save it (or print it), it told me that I should buy the software to activate save, well how much is it ? and went to the website and IT COST 129$ !!!! ![]() How would I pay 129$ for this ? ![]() ![]() |
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Posted: January 24, 2012 11:51 pm | ||||||
SpaceRay
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I finally have discovered WHAT happens and why is so difficult to convert probably, it is because in the CHM file there are lots of pages that have a short or very short text and then the rest of the page is kept empty and blank, and the converters keeps all exactly the same and so it has SO MANY huge empty pages and reaches to 583 pages !!
So it will NOT possible to convert CHM to PDF or to HTML, the only possible solution is to convert the CHM to a Word document and then delete all the white spaces and join toghether all the chapters. OR convert it to HTML and edit the pages deleting the white spaces and then convert it to Word or PDF So finally I know what to do and what the real solution is Now I have to find a good way to convert CHM to WORD |
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Posted: January 25, 2012 1:34 am | ||||||
Morgantao
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You can try and find a PDF editor and delete all the white spaces, but I don't know if the index would work right after that...
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Posted: January 25, 2012 1:52 am | ||||||
GMM
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SpaceRay, if you want working links you should really use the CHM or HTML version. I guess the file from Zamzar is close to the best PDF you can get. Alternatively, you can reflow the HTML files in Word or another text processor to make them look the way you want and then print the result to pdf. |
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Posted: January 25, 2012 3:57 am | ||||||
SpaceRay
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This is true, the best converter from the 12 I have tried is Zamzar, the only problem has been the missing links, (because the huge blank spaces "error" can be solved editing the file) BUT really if my real intention is to be able to PRINT THE RESULT, then the missing links are really pointless and useless, because until now there is no technology that could print "links" inside a document an click on it with your fingers and then it will go to the printed related page to that link. ![]() ![]()
Thanks very much for your suggestions, I will see how can I solve it in the best possible way. Although at first I thought that the best would be PDF, there can be alternatives to this. |
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Posted: January 25, 2012 9:18 am | ||||||
SpaceRay
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I found another very good conversion program BUT it costs 99$ for the basic version and 199$ for the professional version, and obviously I will not pay this to make a conversion, and the demo does not allow to save the result.
I have found another software called Nitro PDF Pro 7 this allowed me to convert the PDF created from the conversion from CHM to PDF (made by Zamzar website) into a WORD document without any watermark, missing text or any other lim itation or problem as it happened with other many softwares. So I have converted it to Word and then opened this new file and now I can edit it and delete ALL the huge blank spaces that fill so many pages, and recover all the space and then finally keep all the text toghether, one page next to the other. The problem here is that it will TAKE A LOT OF TIME AND MANUALLY WORK, as I have to go through the 583 pages of document file. I have already cleaned 40 pages. Surely after cleaning all the huge blank spaces, there will be MUCH less pages, and probably could be perhaps around 300. When finished, if FF Inc. allows it, I would like to share it with anyone that could also interested to have it. It will NOT have the links, BUT you will be able to print it easily. When finished I will use again the Nitro PDF software to convert it again to PDF For having the links I will have to make another future conversion in another way. |
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Posted: January 25, 2012 5:44 pm | ||||||
Carl
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A less complicated way is if you had Acrobat [ or use a free pdf printer] all you'd have to do is open the help file from the ui and click print > print as pdf. All links are retained, the format is preserved, which does mean the spaces would be retained,[ again you could edit ] only a problem if you want to print it, why not keep FF as green as possible and not print it
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Posted: January 25, 2012 11:27 pm | ||||||
SpaceRay
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I have not tried this with Acrobat own application, BUT I have tried it with a PDF reader that is able to print it right but the problem is that the CHM is NOT configured to be printed, so it has lots of empty blanck spaces because CHM file is HTML files and they are made as hyperlink pages that are NOT intended to be printed, modified or edited. They are NOT like an book that all the pages are filled and one page goes after the other. By the way the links COLOR is retained and is shown on the PDF I have converted from CHM, I mean the linked words are shown on blue instead of black, so if printed the links will be kept. What is not possibe is to USE them in the windows as they are NOT ACTIVE links, so you can´t use the links to go from one page to another (obviously this is inside windows, because when printed is impossible to have active links)
Well, I always try to keep as green as possible and ONLY print when it is really needed. This time I really need to print it because I do not have TWO screens, wh ere I could show in one the Filter Forge and in the other the CHM Help file, and is very difficult for me to keep changing back and forth from one window to another. |
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Posted: January 26, 2012 3:47 am | ||||||
CFandM
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Either way SpaceRay you have a lot of work ahead of you if you want to edit the white space out....Adobe does have a fully working 30 day trial of acrobat...You can save and edit with no watermarks...So you can edit that pdf you just made... ![]() Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times! |
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Posted: January 26, 2012 11:53 am | ||||||
SpaceRay
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About this, today I have thought another solution. I do not need to edit the text with my main computer, I have also a laptop computer, and so I can take it to the dining room and put it in front of the TV and so while I am making the modifications I can watch the TV ![]()
Yes, thanks for the suggestion, I will download the Adobe Acrobat trial and see how it works, BUT it will be the SAME is it happens now in my WORD version, because the PDF conversion is already done and as said the huge empty spaces comes from the mini HTML pages made for each of the chapter or links to the main texts, so there are A LOT of mini texts that must put all toghether. I have not tried to edit yet with Adobe Acrobat, but I think that it will be probably exactly the same as with the WORD version, as the blank spaces are already inside the file and I do not think that Acrobat will have any kind of tool to make this automatically. Anyway I will try it and see what happens |
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Posted: January 26, 2012 2:06 pm | ||||||
SpaceRay
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I have just seen this in the Adobe Acrobat website
So the CHM file is NOT included and still need a CHM to PDF converter |
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Posted: January 26, 2012 3:09 pm | ||||||
Carl
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mmmmm you could use your laptop with your pdf next to your main pc with no need to print or edit ![]() Acrobat performs the task easily - and spaces can close up automaticly |
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Posted: January 26, 2012 4:54 pm | ||||||
Carl
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Posted: January 26, 2012 4:56 pm | ||||||
Carl
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also once your 30 day trial has ended, just download Acrobat Reader [ totally free ] to view your pdf files
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Posted: January 26, 2012 5:28 pm | ||||||
Morgantao
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LOL I was thinking the same thing. When you print to PDF, you have to print each section on it's own, right? You can't print the whole help in one go, or am I wrong? |
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Posted: January 26, 2012 5:51 pm | ||||||
Carl
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Yes your right, you'd have to do 8 pdf and then combine them to make one document, again Acrobat does that easily ![]() |
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Posted: January 26, 2012 5:57 pm | ||||||
Morgantao
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How only 8 pdf files?
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Posted: January 26, 2012 6:38 pm | ||||||
Carl
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Posted: January 26, 2012 7:40 pm | ||||||
CFandM
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Don't forget to be close to the snacks as well.. ![]() ![]() Thanks for clearing that up carl... ![]() ![]() ![]() Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times! |
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Posted: January 26, 2012 7:55 pm | ||||||
Carl
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LOL essential ![]() |
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Posted: January 26, 2012 8:11 pm | ||||||
Andrew B.
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I got curious about this question and gave it a try. It is not difficult at all. I have Acrobat Pro. I assume Acrobat can do this too. The steps are:
1. Convert to HTML using http://www.snapfiles.com/get/chmencoder.html. Be sure to create a new empty folder to receive the HTML. This will be a lot of files, and it's good to make sure Acrobat doesn't get confused. 2. In Acrobat, File|Create|PDF from Web Page. Browse to folder and sel ect root html page. Then, before you begin select Capture Multiple Levels. Tell it to get entire site. 3. Sit back and wait. It takes awhile. BTW, you will end up with a PDF that's not much smaller than the chm. I'd upload it, but it's very big and this forum won't accept PDF anyway -- plus I don't have permission fr om Filter Forge to transmit this. |
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Posted: January 26, 2012 11:58 pm | ||||||
SpaceRay
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WOW!! Thanks really very very much for all your help you are giving here, and be so kind to help in this topic.
I have just installed Acrobat X Pro and will try it as this has 30 days free without any kind of watermark, limitation or any other blocking thing, and is fully working with all the features available and save the result. I will test all your very good given suggestions and see them. ![]() BUT as you have suggested, probably I should find a better way to use the laptop toghether with my computer. |
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Posted: January 27, 2012 1:44 am | ||||||
Carl
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I hope it all works out so it is comfortable for your needs
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Posted: January 27, 2012 1:54 am | ||||||
GMM
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Feel free to distribute it but the forum won't let you attach this file. Please use Dropbox or Rapidshare or any other filesharing service. |
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Posted: January 27, 2012 5:15 am | ||||||
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I have never used a file share site, but I can look into it if SpaceRay has trouble converting this. I don't think he will, though. Acrobat makes it very easy.
One thing, though. The help file doesn't work as well in PDF. Navigation is not as good. It is more suited for a chm file. A chm file can be launched by double clicking it. Or, at least it can on my Windows 7 computer. So if you want the help file on a second computer where there is no Filter Forge, just copy the CHM file and use it directly. Or, it can be used as a bunch of HTML files. Just extract it into with the utility I mentioned (into it's own folder) and view it with a browser, just like you would view a web site. |
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Posted: January 27, 2012 7:41 am | ||||||
SpaceRay
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WOW !!!!! Carl, you have found THE BEST SOLUTION by long far by suggesting touse the Adobe Acrobat Pro own conversion tool through the "Print to PDF" way. And the best is as you say that
YES, YES, YES, THIS IS HUGE HELP!!!!, and furthermore, the conversion is MUCH BETTER AND MUCH PERFECT using the Adobe PDF converter, and the CHM to PDF is much better than with any other tool (although the hyperlinks is missing too as with others, only keeps the word highlighted on blue) I want to give give a you a great hug and a million thanks for this discovery, I also found this graphic to show you my thanks. ![]() ![]() Now thanks to you I have a bigger and better plan for the FF Help conversion, and after the Acrobat PDF conversion, I converted again to WORD and I am changing it MUCH better than before, and I am reorganizing the texts inside the file because I do not like that the text is SO tight and compressed, and for me is much harder to read, so I am separating the lines that I feel could be separated to read and understand them better. ![]() |
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Posted: January 28, 2012 4:06 pm | ||||||
Carl
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Posted: January 28, 2012 4:45 pm | ||||||
lipebianc
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PDF Manual? Very useful, especial for reading on tablets, etc! "From the moment we are born, we start being filtered..." |
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