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Miavir
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Cathedral Window by Miavir
http://www.filterforge.com/filters/4578.html

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Kraellin
Kraellin

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ah, vlad is going to hate you almost as much as he hates me... 60 controls smile;) (i am kidding, vlad smile:D ).

this one has some oddities in it that dont quite work for me. you've essentially portrayed this one as a stained glass cathedral window, but, you've got one overlay over your 'glass' and stained glass isnt an overlay. the glass is integrated into the framing. this looks like the framing is OVER the glass and not integrated.

it's still an interesting effect, but either the name of the filter is wrong or you need to integrate the glass with the framing to convince me of a stained glass cathedral window.
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KGtheway2B
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I know you put a lot of work into the glass part but for those who might have a use I was wondering how hard it would be to include an option to make the glass 100% transparent. I tried turning glass opacity to 0 but it just changed the look of it, what I would love to see would be just the frames visible with the gray/white checkerboard beneath.

Cool filter, but I think if you took a shot at reducing the controls a bit it could be an awesome one!
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Miavir
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KGtheway2B wrote:
I know you put a lot of work into the glass part but for those who might have a use I was wondering how hard it would be to include an option to make the glass 100% transparent. I tried turning glass opacity to 0 but it just changed the look of it, what I would love to see would be just the frames visible with the gray/white checkerboard beneath.


Actually, its *supposed* to do that, and has for me in the past (can't check right now). If not, it is a bug and I'll look into it. Make sure to load a totally transparent image before trying though, otherwise the result will not be transparent.

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KGtheway2B wrote:
Cool filter, but I think if you took a shot at reducing the controls a bit it could be an awesome one!


Well, I like having lots of controls available to fine tune stuff smile:)
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Miavir
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Miavir wrote:
it's still an interesting effect, but either the name of the filter is wrong or you need to integrate the glass with the framing to convince me of a stained glass cathedral window.


A cogent point, but I did it this way because its easy to do this way (or at least, not QUITE so hard). Integrating the glass into the framing instead of the other way around is not something I have any idea how to do at this point. If I see a way, and it is doable within the limits of Filter Forge, you'll see that filter appearing one day smile:) Right now, I'm thinking more along the lines of finding ideas to make the window more 'Cathedral Window' shaped, not square. That will likely wind up in a filter sooner or later.
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Kraellin
Kraellin

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well, there is a type of glass window that does do what your filter does. it was a pane sandwiched between two pieces of wood. but, i dont recall ever seeing it as a stained glass type.

and yes, i suppose i shld give you time to get your feet wet smile:) it's just you came in with such advanced looking filters to start out with that i treated you like an old pro smile;)
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Miavir
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Kraellin wrote:
and yes, i suppose i shld give you time to get your feet wet Smile it's just you came in with such advanced looking filters to start out with that i treated you like an old pro smile;)


I don't mind being treated like a pro smile:) Dunno about my Filters looking advanced, but it seems programming knowledge translates well to Filter Forge. But your question begs the question, do YOU know how to do what you envision ? If so, I'd like to see how, right now I have no idea how, given that the glass parts are NOT regularly shaped. or would surrounding the glass by a line of leading be enough ?
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Kraellin
Kraellin

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yup, flow lines, flow charts, logical as well as creative thinking... it all translates well into FF.

do i know how to do what i'm envisioning on this filter or in general on any filter? there's at least two ways to go about making a filter. one, you have a vision and do it or learn how to do it and do it. or, two, you plug things into each other until something recognizable shows up and develop that to a conclusion. and with FF's easy, modular, plug 'n play style, one can do one or the other or both. so, on me making your cathedral window, no, no clue at the moment. well, maybe a clue, but not the particulars. i'd guess a frame for the outline and a stones noise for the stained glass framing and maybe some noise with a kaleidoscope and threshold and set alpha for the glass maybe and then use the mortar of the stones to make a threshold pattern to 'cut' the glass to fit...something along those lines...roughly. not sure how you'd make the frame shaped to a cathedral window though. you might have to do a shape within a shape to get that and that would probably involve some profile gradients and curves.

there was a lot of work in the beta days done on shapes. i think it's uberzev that was the genious there, though, dont leave out some of the others, like dilla and byRo. you could check out their filters for ideas. shapes is not my forte' smile:) folks with strong math skills, like geometry, tend to do the shapes much better than me. i barely remember things like Pi-r-squared smile:)
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