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Daddymoen
Daddymoen
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I'm a newbie who has spent about three hours in help files, forum searches and experimenting, trying to create my first filter using the latest version Filter Forge. The filter I am trying to create needs subtract one image from another, and then display the result.

So far no matter what I try I cannot load two separate images into the filter. I've read the Multiple Image info in the Help file. I've searched the Forums. There must be something this Newbie is missing?

Anyone have an example filter they've created that subtracts one image from another? Maybe by looking at how you did it I can figure out how to create the filter I need?

Daddymoen
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SpaceRay
SpaceRay

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Using the "Image" component you can load ONLY one image or photo into the FF and all the "image" components you put in the filter will be making reference to the SAME source image loaded through the "Load image" menu on FF.

BUT there is also another way to load MORE images and photos into the filter and that is using the "Color control" that you can see here ---> http://filterforge.com/more/help/Comp...ntrol.html

I will make a screenshot to explain better how to do it, so you can understand it well.

If you add a "color control" component the default configuration is as shown below

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SpaceRay
SpaceRay

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And this way this ONLY allows to have colors input, BUT if you change the "External Images" from "Not Allowed" To "Allowed" it will LET you upload your own images apart from the one you have already loaded using the "Image" component
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You can see a good example on how the color control is used to load additional images by opening and editing inside the FF Filter Editor this very good filter made by Morgantao that uses many of them.

Image Ball Pit
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SpaceRay
SpaceRay

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If you will NOT use any kind of color input into the filter, there is a better option to change the "Allowed" to "Allowed as override" and then this is converted into something very similar to the original "Image" component.

This works overriding the original "Image" component that you need to connect for this to work, and any loaded image will override the original source image loaded by FF menu.

When you first select "Allowed by override" some errors will happen as shown below

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SpaceRay
SpaceRay

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To be able to solve this errors is very easy, you only need to add to the "color control" component as "Default source" the "Image" component that is going to be overriden, AND load any kind of image that you want so there is one source and is not empty.

Here below is how should look after adding the Image component and loading the image

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Daddymoen
Daddymoen
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SpaceRay,

Thanks, I am making progress already with your help.

Daddymoen
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SpaceRay
SpaceRay

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Glad of being of help

Here is another part of the tutorial that I forgot to put

The default and "normal" color control image load assumes and suposses that you are going to load "square" images and so there will be no problem, and does not need to do anything else.

BUT if the loaded images are NOT square, you could perhaps and probably have problems in the following components added to this control, OR also you want to customize the placement of the image.

So there is a further "Image placement" option

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SpaceRay
SpaceRay

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This Image placement FF preview images, BUT does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, if the image loaded is SQUARE images and fills the whole preview area. ANY square image that you load using the "color control" will fill the whole "image placement" so you will not have any control over it.

As far as I know the "image placement" is only useful and can be used when you have IRREGULAR AND NON-SQUARE images or photos, or also when the image is bigger than the canvas or component defined size.

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SpaceRay
SpaceRay

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When loading a NON square sized image, you will see some transparent background checkerboard showing you that the image does not fit the pre-defined square, so then you have many options to customize how you want to place the image using the 4 drop-down menus below.

The checkerboard will appear wherever the image does not fit the default square (up, down, left, right, round...)

You do not need to fill the whole square to be able to use the image inside filter forge, because you can perfectly use non-square images if the filters and components accepts them.

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SpaceRay
SpaceRay

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What happens when you load and image and then does not want it anymore ?

You can just load a new one, and the old one will be replaced.

What happens if I want to go back to the color control part to choose a color instead of a image ?

You can use the "Unload option" to delete the loaded image and go back to the color option selection.

You will only go back to color selection y you have NOT selected "Allowed by overridden" You have to UNSELECT this to go back to color selection.

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SpaceRay
SpaceRay

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As far as I know, there is no limit of how many "color controls" components you can use to load as many images as you want BUT the problem comes when connecting this images to the components that they have limitations and can only use fr om 1 to 7 sources, depending on which component you want to use and connect with.

The image placement ALSO is useful When using a window wh ere the canvas needs to be bigger than the image loaded. The best example I can think for this second option is the Bombs Away filters fr om CFandM ----> Bombs Away FF 2.0 and FF 3 .0 and Bombs Away Multimage for FF 3.0
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Donna111
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Hi there
I am a newbie here.And this topic is worth to follow.The answer of SpaceRay is really useful.And it seems easy.For me ,i always processing the image filter or load the image using an image SDK.It costs me some money.This topic helps me a lot.Thanks
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SpaceRay
SpaceRay

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Hello Donna111, thanks for your coment and glad that this thead has been helpful and usefull for you.

If you want there is also another thread about similar topic

tutorial on How to use "Color control" component to load images

If you need any other thing, just ask
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