Be able to create realistic organic Suds Bubbles Foam in Filter forge

In all this time I have tried to find out a way to make a filter that create realistic Suds Bubbles Foam inside Filter Forge, but have not been able to do it yet, and have not found a way, is supossed that it should be possible but until now nobody else have done it yet either, although I have seen in the User gallery that it may be possible perhaps in some way

I mean to be able to do this kind of images

Here is a more complex beach foam bubbles that looks really great

In filter forge there is this bubbles filter but these are really random bubbles that are not touching and joined tight together

https://filterforge.com/filters/3320.html

In this other filter the bubbles are also isolated and not joined together and look too much spherical and all have nearly the same size so it is not realistic

https://filterforge.com/filters/4631.html

I wonder why there is no filter that have been able to make these kind of realistic organic bubbles

The nearest filter I made was this.
Spongiformia
I don't know if changing something in the settings it is possible to get a real bubble effect.

And this is because the Cells component is giving the effect already with all the shapes already in a regular way and all seems to be about making the same pattern

Here is what I have already done in my own filter to modify the Cells component, although as said, it looks much more like a wild and unexpected web than your excellent and well organized cells you have done in Spongiformia

This is the default components that are already used and available in the filter that is in the library Organic tangled web

I have tried already to use different Curve components attached to the Profile node, but until now now of the things I have tried did give any good result

Although I really prefer and like really much more the more organic feeling that gives the Cells component than the stones as in the Ramlyn filter shown above



Please, does anyone know how could be modified the Cells component to make irregular non-uniform results?

Thanks very much for any possible help

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Sphinx. wrote: You can use the Bomber in Lighten mode to create a less uniform look:

Thanks very much for your help and taking the time to suggest this, although I am sorry that I do not know how this you are showing could be used for making the bubbles examples shown.

If you put the repeat value to 3 instead of 1 it will show that most of the spheres created are nearly the same size and creates a uniform pattern, and there is no big and smnall ones, just normal ones equal in size and some small and very tiny ones, and the results keeps to be uniform.

I have tried to use the High pass as I use with my own organic filter and get this does not seems to be bubbles like the examples

Well, for realistic results, you would need to simulate a dynamic system with air pressure, surface area ect. Not really something you'd want to do in FF

What Sphinx. showed is a good starting point. Maybe try combining that with a self-scaling loop or something.

If you think about uniformity more carefully, you'll see that the sizes in Sphinx's example are perfectly non-uniform in the small scale. Of course, as you zoom out (increase the repeat), you'll see a more uniform distribution. This is to say, if you want less uniform results, you should zoom in, not out.

Using circle packing as a starting point might also work to some degree.

FF IS ABLE TO USE VORONOI

And FF is able to use Voronoi as it is shown for example on the Stones component that is based on the Worley Noise that is a way of Voronoi

So this is why I thought that it would be possible in FF

Because FF includes already the use of cells noise so I think it should be possible, but maybe only for regular uniform ones, and for more complex and irregular noise maybe it should be used some kind of scripting

Is also interesting this VORONOI NOISE expalanation

https://www.ronja-tutorials.com/2018/0...noise.html

Also have found this interesting Cellular Noise description and tutorial to start to understand the principles behind it

https://thebookofshaders.com/12/

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emme wrote: What Sphinx. showed is a good starting point. Maybe try combining that with a self-scaling loop or something.

Yes it may be a good starting point and have yet to see if this could be useful and how to use it in some way. I do not know how to make a self scaling loop. Also after seeing that the bubbles are generated on voronoi, it really is not sphere based, as it has more straight lines

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emme wrote: If you think about uniformity more carefully, you'll see that the sizes in Sphinx's example are perfectly non-uniform in the small scale. Of course, as you zoom out (increase the repeat), you'll see a more uniform distribution. This is to say, if you want less uniform results, you should zoom in, not out.

Yes, I agree with that I am wrong trying to zoom out as it will make it more uniform, and the good way is to zoom in, but the reason I told this is that the problem I see is that the repeat node can not be used with negative values and only is able to use integer, and the minimum value is 1, and is the default base that is given so there is no way to use the Repeat value for the zoom in, and should find a way to use the scale to zoom in

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emme wrote: Using circle packing as a starting point might also work to some degree.

Yes, I have also been thinking about this too, and you are right that this also would be a starting point, now that there are some circle packing filters avaialble in FF, although as I have said , the voronoi is not based on circle shapes as far as I know, so maybe is not right to use circle packing

I can confirm that realistic organic bubbles are really possible to be made inside FF after I have just found these awesome bubbles created by Martin Naumann shown in his gallery here

This example shows exactly what I was trying to tell and explain about irregular shapes and avoid uniformity and have much difference in size between the bubbles and have some huge and some small ones

https://www.filterforge.com/forum/read...&TID=14616

Although it is not available the filter to use this, and will see how this can be done in some way