Jumble images in irregular and different sizes squares?

Hi, I have seen some filters that have the beautiful and very good option to jumble the source image in more tiny squares like for example

Jumble by Kochubey

The problem I see is that ALL the tiny square are always the same equal size

and I wonder if they could be done irregular, I mean with squares of different sizes

For example the Adaptative Tiling by byro does have different square sizes but they are not filled with images bits, just colors

Another example of jumble source image is this filter by Rick Duim

Grid input by Rick Duim

i know that the use for this filter is not to break images, although it makes a good work at it

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Rick Duim wrote: I think I can adapt a filter I'm working on now to jumble with unequal size blocks and perhaps other shapes too. I'll post an image (later in the week?).

OH! This is a great news that you think it may be possible, and thanks very much for taking the idea

You found the word I was looking for: unequal, as irregular is not right and could be misunderstood

I think that jumbling an selected image in the right way could give interesting and beautiful results

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Rick Duim wrote: Here's a sample from the filter

well seeing your example, is not at all what I was meaning and what I wanted to explain

I have found that modifiying the original Adaptative Tiling by byRo, changing the solid fill to jumble in the tiles component I could get in some way what I wanted but not exactly

Here is shown that the lifesaver is jumbled beautifully and it has 3 different sizes of squares mixed together

Here is the filter I have made to make the image example above

Is simply by changing the Solid fill in Tiles to Jumble and then after make all new presets with this change

Adaptive Tiling Jumbled.ffxml

From the 4 points above I have chosen to additionally add number 4 - OFFSET

Have added 3 Offset components, one for each of the 3 sizes available, 2 sliders for each

Although it seems to work right in some way, it will destroy any variation or design you may have, and will not just move the bits inside your design, it will create a totally new one, this surely is that these offset components should be placed in another place for this not happening

I think that having just one offset for all would not be good, although really have not tried and do not know what happens, so I could try and see

Adaptive Tiling Jumbled Multiscale Offset.ffxml

USING 3 SOURCE IMAGES

I have thought also that instead of ONLY using just one source image it could be used 3 source images as there is 3 square sizes.

So I have added 3 color controls, one to each jumble size, and you get this shown here

The input image is still being used also although is not shown

Please, if anyone knows a better way to do the points 3 and 4 it would be appreciated that you could tell how to do it better

Also Need to find a way to be able to make the points 1 and 2 that I still do not know

Thanks for any help

I repeat here the 4 points as shown above

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SpaceRay wrote: The problem I see with this is shown here above 1 - It is limited to only 3 square sizes, it would be good to have more different sizes available, maybe 5 or 6. 2 - Is difficult to mix these 3 sizes with the 3 sliders to get a good result that combines all 3 in a wanted way. Maybe there could be another better way to do it, considering that now the original point of the filter to be "adaptive" is lost and not used with the jumbled option 3 - You can not resize the images bits inside the new created squares, of course I do not mean of course to resize them individually, decrease or increase all the bits at once or maybe also in parts (one resize for each size of square) I have thought to use an scale component to solve this 4 - You can not reposition the images bits inside the new created squares, again as in point 3 is not to be done individually and would be in the same way This is done adding offset components

Note: you may probably it already the default values where Scale and Offset has no effect

Scale = 1 (real size)

Offset = 50 (original without moving)

From what I'm seeing a lot of the original filter looks complicated but it boils down to how to distribute each tile size. I suspect you can reconstruct this tree without the technicality and use some other image map to randomize/differ the sizes of each tile etc etc etc.

At least you went for it!

Very nice images.

The black and white images look not too complex to do in FF.

The color image needs some small set up for the circle size.
But the most complex part is about the colors. There is a nice color choice and I don't see it easy to do with an automatic choice.

Also just wanted to say I've been lurking around. Hello.

I think that when I may have some more time I want to go back to this idea of making irregular rectangles shuffle and jumble although I do not have really the skills and knowledge to make it as many other experts and excelent FF users in the forum, but may try to do something

tha main idea of this jumble or shuffle is to deconstruct and change totally the original image into a totally new collage that changes totally the perception and meaning of the original

Here are some examples of artist that work with this deconstruction as for example to search, copy and paste in google images

Rosalie Gascoigne artwork
or us this link Rosalie Gascoigne artwork google images search

Cecil Touchon artwork
Cecil Touchon artwork google images search

Fabio Zanino artwork
or us this link Fabio Zanino artwork google images search

There is also a new filter that is very good for deconstructing in a good way

Multi Slice by James



Shuffle by Numbers By Skybase



as said at beginning Jumble By Kochubey



Although this from Kochubey is great, it would be good also to have rectangular jumble instead of only square one, and of course as said at beginning with different sizes and not having all the squares or rectangles same size.

and I think there are some other