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Betis
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Do you mind posting the filter so we can have a look at it? We might be able to help you, or at least all benefit from it.
Roses are #FF0000
Violets are #0000FF All my base are belong to you. |
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Posted: January 4, 2009 4:59 pm | ||||
StevieJ
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Skybase, those look excellent!!!
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"Buzzards gotta eat...same as worms..." - Clint :) |
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Posted: January 4, 2009 5:01 pm | ||||
Skybase
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Betis: I feel its good enough so I just uploaded the filter onto the library. Check it out after a while
![]() Currently its got issues with seamlessness because of the blueish gradient I applied. But otherwise everything works fairly well. The other problem is that its a bit slow, and I certainly think some components can be reduced. (Although I find necessity in certain elements because they do something specific.) |
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Posted: January 4, 2009 6:51 pm | ||||
CorvusCroax
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Oooh... very nice Skybase!
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Posted: January 4, 2009 7:36 pm | ||||
ThreeDee
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Very nice, Skybase.
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Posted: January 9, 2009 11:08 am | ||||
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Posted: January 9, 2009 8:45 pm | ||||
Skybase
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That's sweet, nice coloring there tigerAspect
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Posted: January 10, 2009 7:29 pm | ||||
Betis
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You should use my Star Snippet for your stars.
![]() Roses are #FF0000
Violets are #0000FF All my base are belong to you. |
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Posted: January 10, 2009 9:03 pm | ||||
tigerAspect |
An update. Much better now, I switched over to a variant on the technique CorvusCroax used on his example, it gives much better defined colors. I'd have liked to not use a High Pass on the Cells noise, but it's the only way I know of to get rid of those annoying flat-white areas.
Oh yeah, has anyone else discovered that you can isolate the edges of a Pyramids noise by using High Pass and a Tone Curve? That's how I'm doing the "flare" stars. Anyways, pic: ![]() |
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Posted: January 14, 2009 10:08 am | ||||
Kraellin
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i like this last one, tiger.
got an image of the components? or, you could just post the write-up. but, as is, i dont know what curve you're using or how you've plugged things in. If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: January 14, 2009 12:16 pm | ||||
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Posted: January 14, 2009 12:45 pm | ||||
Skybase
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I think that's where I played with scale a lot. When I saw that thing happening, I made another pyramid noise but with larger stars and different variation, then blended them using "screen" so they additively get blended. I donno, it least solved the squooshing problem.
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Posted: January 14, 2009 1:38 pm | ||||
Kraellin
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thanks, tiger. got it going just fine.
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: January 14, 2009 10:52 pm | ||||
Kraellin
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Posted: January 15, 2009 2:08 pm | ||||
CorvusCroax
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OK, that's a brilliant solution! Nice work! I wonder if you couldn't use a tone curve on the remaining black bits, to give your big stars more of a subtle glow... (In the high pass step, have the black end go up to, say, 20%, gray goes to nothing, and then white is as you have it.) |
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Posted: January 15, 2009 2:13 pm | ||||
tigerAspect |
Using a Tone Curve for the glow doesn't work, unfortunately.
It's now submitted as a snippet, and there's Glow in that version, I ended up using a 2nd High Pass step, and that works quite well. |
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Posted: January 16, 2009 10:46 am | ||||
tigerAspect |
Another Update:
It's undergone 3 major revisions since the last update, the latest being a change to the color selection, I moved to a Difference Mask approach to getting the 2 color gradients mixing based on a Lighten blend, I'll probably post it as a snippet unless this technique has already been done to death. Pros: Insane cusomizability, good sense of depth. Cons: Large number of controls, or there will be when it's done. Layer splitting with a Tone Curve doesn't handle tone modifications to the base noise profile very well. Slow as all get out. Seriously, it's pretty darn slow right now, around 6 minutes to render on my dual-core 3Ghz Mac. Actually, is that terrible? Are there guidelines anywhere? Also, I'm welcoming suggestions for improvements. ![]() |
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Posted: February 3, 2009 12:34 pm | ||||
Kraellin
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ah, tiger! i really like that last one!
the speed requirements for subbmission to the FF library are something like, single core, 1 ghz machine with 1 gig of ram and taking no longer than 15 minutes to render a single image. (that's how i remember it. actual requirements may be different ![]() If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: February 3, 2009 1:14 pm | ||||
StevieJ
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Wow!!! That last one is spectacular!!!
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"Buzzards gotta eat...same as worms..." - Clint :) |
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Posted: February 3, 2009 2:20 pm | ||||
Redcap
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The clouds are awesome; however, the stars are not all regular shaped. You have some flares = great. You have some circles= great. You have some lumps of white... not very star looking.
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Posted: February 3, 2009 5:34 pm | ||||
CorvusCroax
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Hey Tiger Aspect,
Were you going to submit that or post it? I'd love to see it in action. -CCX |
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Posted: February 12, 2009 3:01 pm | ||||
tigerAspect |
It's in the queue. I still haven't figured out a good way to get huge star glow values to show up properly, so that'll be in the next version.
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Posted: February 14, 2009 3:11 pm | ||||
Skybase
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You know... sometimes just doing simple things can have effective, natural results.
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Posted: February 14, 2009 6:07 pm | ||||
CorvusCroax
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You mean the submission queue? Sweet! Seriously, the image above is hands down the best nebulae out of FF so far. |
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Posted: February 15, 2009 4:00 pm | ||||
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Posted: February 15, 2009 5:47 pm | ||||
Kraellin
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nice
![]() If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: February 15, 2009 7:56 pm | ||||
Betis
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This is more a generic space generator than a NebuGen, but I got back into space stuff. Give some feedback!
Galaxy Explorer.ffxml Roses are #FF0000
Violets are #0000FF All my base are belong to you. |
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Posted: March 7, 2009 1:17 pm | ||||
infiniview
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Actually I watched a recent video on the size of the universe. And there are often irregular whitish smudges and things most often they are not stars but entire distant galaxies. That astronomers just a couple of decades ago assumed to be stars. So the irregular white bits actually lend a bit of realism. ![]() at least 90 percent of all sensation is texture, even beyond the visual, with elements of noise, tone, gradients, interval and degree.
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Posted: March 8, 2009 1:43 am | ||||
Skybase
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Hm... well so far as much as this forum post goes, I think I want to make a couple statements about making such filters.
First off I think some of the filters have way too many stars. Even if the number of stars are controllable, I still feel there is some unnatural balance regarding the composition. Casually, I wouldn't care, but ascetically speaking, it's distracting and makes the filter hard to use. Colors are important too! Everytime I hit the next variation button I quite expect a similar yet different composition of color. It's nice when you know what your colors will come out to be. Otherwise harmony of these colors is important. Not that I'm saying "stick strictly to the color scheme" but it's better to come up with a color palette first or least later as the filter gets built. For example, nebulas have a specific color range which makes them look beautiful (even if they were photographed with colorization filters. They still tend to have a harmonious range of colors.) I'm assuming most people are aware of such things. It's just that I felt I needed to put it out somewhere before another crazy (over-kill) filter pops somewhere. That was some heavy criticism, but things just had to be said. |
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Posted: March 8, 2009 6:47 pm | ||||
Betis
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Actually, Here's the Filter you really should see.
Galaxy Explorer (for now, I think I might rename it). ![]() Roses are #FF0000
Violets are #0000FF All my base are belong to you. |
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Posted: March 8, 2009 8:29 pm | ||||
jffe |
Hey now, yer making my sad little *asteroid* filter look, well, sad ha-ha
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Posted: March 8, 2009 8:40 pm | ||||
Betis
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I guess that's a really good compliment if it's coming from jffe!
![]() ![]() Roses are #FF0000
Violets are #0000FF All my base are belong to you. |
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Posted: March 8, 2009 9:40 pm | ||||
Kraellin
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betis, very cool! love the planet. you going to publish that one?
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: March 9, 2009 8:26 am | ||||
Betis
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Not yet, I need to add more abiance, gas, and Planet Controls... and possibly more realism if I find out how. I might take the detail of the terrain down though, because you can hardly see the details.
Roses are #FF0000
Violets are #0000FF All my base are belong to you. |
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Posted: March 9, 2009 9:21 am | ||||
Sjeiti
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Very good image! You even got realistic clouds. Could you post a close-up of the planet?
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Posted: March 9, 2009 10:46 am | ||||
StevieJ
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Awesome Betis!!!
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Yup, that's top praise coming from him..... ![]() ![]() Steve
"Buzzards gotta eat...same as worms..." - Clint :) |
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Posted: March 9, 2009 2:02 pm | ||||
Betis
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Alright Sjeiti, there's the closeup... ish.
![]() I think I was messing with the clouds too much and messed them up though... ![]() I'll post the filter in-case you guys want to help. ![]() Full Picture (768x768) Galaxy Explorer.ffxml Roses are #FF0000
Violets are #0000FF All my base are belong to you. |
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Posted: March 9, 2009 9:49 pm | ||||
StevieJ
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.....
![]() Did I mention how good I think this is??? ![]() ![]()
I would just screw it up on you.....no sense in disturbing an artist while in the middle of a masterpiece, eh??? ..... ![]() Steve
"Buzzards gotta eat...same as worms..." - Clint :) |
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Posted: March 10, 2009 10:30 am | ||||
Betis
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Quite possibly so...
Yes thanks guys for your support, I didn't think I would get such generous compliments from such veteran forgers! ![]() I'll fix the clouds, add Planet controls, and do some other generic development stuff. See ya in a few hours ![]() ![]() Actually I'm not sure which direction to take this, More towards space, or more planet-oriented. Opinions? Roses are #FF0000
Violets are #0000FF All my base are belong to you. |
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Posted: March 10, 2009 7:50 pm | ||||
Kraellin
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no reason you cant do two filers, betis
![]() If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: March 10, 2009 9:56 pm | ||||
Betis
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Very true, but what if an EP arises from a combined one?
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Violets are #0000FF All my base are belong to you. |
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Posted: March 10, 2009 10:42 pm | ||||
Redcap
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Posted: March 11, 2009 8:03 am | ||||
Kraellin
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my experience says that EP's dont come to wildly variable filters. i shld know, some of mine vary so much in effect that even i dont know how to use them ![]() ![]() If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: March 11, 2009 8:29 am | ||||
Betis
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I will definitely keep that piece of advice in mind. Thanks
![]() ![]() Oh, does anyone have any suggestions as well? Like Secondary planets? or... galaxies in the distance? A sun? Bombard me. ![]() Roses are #FF0000
Violets are #0000FF All my base are belong to you. |
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Posted: March 11, 2009 8:52 am | ||||
Kraellin
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moons for the planets might be a nice touch.
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: March 11, 2009 1:44 pm |
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