Ramlyn
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After long time and many problems ( earthquake and tsunami not far from my house... then being in Bangkok while large part of the country was flooded... ), I'm back to my favorite program: Filter Forge.
![]() But I forgot most of the things I learned before. So, I'm here asking some basic hint. Well, let's go to my question. There are filters like Gridwarp or Fiber Image that apply a creative effect on the picture. The effect is not flat, but in 3D. It is also not only a play of light and shadow, it may completely change the color or the structure of the things in the photo, without changing their basic shape. Let's suppose that I have a filter, like Unstable Weave, and I want to use it as a skin over my picture. This way my picture will keep the original shape, but the things in the photo will have the color and design of this filter wrapping them. What is the best way to do it? |
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Posted: February 16, 2012 3:22 pm | ||||||||
Ramlyn
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Any hint?
I tried adding the image at the beginning, as source, but in many cases the filter simply overimpose a flat version of the same filter on the photo, that is not what I look for. |
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Posted: February 18, 2012 2:01 pm | ||||||||
Morgantao
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Do you have a specific example of the effect you are going for?
I find it hard to understand what it is exactly you are trying to do. |
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Posted: February 18, 2012 2:43 pm | ||||||||
Carl
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Posted: February 18, 2012 5:26 pm | ||||||||
Carl
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Posted: February 18, 2012 5:27 pm | ||||||||
Carl
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Posted: February 18, 2012 5:28 pm | ||||||||
Carl
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Posted: February 18, 2012 5:31 pm | ||||||||
Carl
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Posted: February 18, 2012 5:56 pm | ||||||||
Ramlyn
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Thanks Carl.
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Anyway I'll work on the blend modes that you posted and see what I get. ![]()
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Posted: February 19, 2012 5:52 am | ||||||||
Ramlyn
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Something like the third example posted by Carl. But having the effect that the design made by the filter goes deeper inside the empty spaces of the original picture. Maybe it can be obtained just working on the blend modes that Carl posted. Or do you have any other idea? If the result is good, I don't mind if it also makes the filter slow. |
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Posted: February 19, 2012 5:59 am | ||||||||
Morgantao
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you mean where the picture is further away from the camera you want the filter to look "deeper" into the screen?
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Posted: February 19, 2012 11:59 am | ||||||||
Ramlyn
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Yes. Exactly. Sometimes, when it doesn't compromise too much the quality of the original photo, it can be done previously making those areas darker. But in most of the cases it is not the best solution. |
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Posted: February 19, 2012 2:27 pm | ||||||||
Morgantao
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For the same reason it's not the best solution in most cases, it's almost impossible to recreate the effect that you're after automatically.
What you would have to do is Feed the filter 2 images - one is the original image, and the other is sort of a depth map, where darker is deeper. Then you can use the depth map for the contour of the filter, and the original image for the colors. |
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Posted: February 19, 2012 2:42 pm | ||||||||
SpaceRay
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I still think that it would be better if Ramlyn could put a photo example of what is exactly what he wants if can find any,and so we could help probably better and find a better solution.
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Posted: February 19, 2012 2:55 pm | ||||||||
Ramlyn
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Some good result could be here :
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Posted: February 19, 2012 3:22 pm | ||||||||
Carl
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Posted: February 20, 2012 3:17 am | ||||||||
Carl
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Posted: February 20, 2012 3:17 am | ||||||||
Carl
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Posted: February 20, 2012 4:25 am | ||||||||
Ramlyn
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Thank you, Carl. Yes, I think the last 3 pictures are very good.
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Posted: February 20, 2012 12:47 pm | ||||||||
Carl
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Here is the filter, don't think Dilla would mind me bastardizing his filter
![]() Unstable Weave Image.ffxml |
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Posted: February 20, 2012 11:30 pm | ||||||||
Ramlyn
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Thanks Carl.
![]() I also did some attempts. I think I understood where to change. ![]() |
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Posted: February 21, 2012 1:10 am |
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