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Posted: October 15, 2007 2:19 am |
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You're fast!
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Posted: October 15, 2007 2:20 am |
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Carl
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You've got the stitch or is it knit feel better than any other author at ff excellent
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Posted: October 15, 2007 2:21 am |
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Thanks. It's woven.
I wanted to make a fabric like the tapestry ribbon fabrics that can be used on furniture. I'm playing with this filter right now.
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Posted: October 15, 2007 2:28 am |
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A few samples of fabric that can be made from this filter.
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Posted: October 15, 2007 3:01 am |
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Posted: October 15, 2007 3:01 am |
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Posted: October 15, 2007 3:01 am |
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Posted: October 15, 2007 3:02 am |
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Carl
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good samples but a bit hard to see detail
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Posted: October 15, 2007 3:03 am |
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Men weave, knit, and much more. Silly man...
If you look at these first two samples you can see stitching. Enlarge the puppies.
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Posted: October 15, 2007 3:04 am |
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Dear Carl,
To see the details
click on the small pics
Your pal,
Manon
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Posted: October 15, 2007 3:05 am |
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Posted: October 15, 2007 3:09 am |
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I go and look at people's samples and most time forget that they can be enlarged.
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Posted: October 15, 2007 3:11 am |
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Other types of fabric you can get from this. Click on the small pics to see the detail.
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Posted: October 15, 2007 5:37 am |
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more
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Posted: October 15, 2007 5:38 am |
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Posted: October 15, 2007 5:39 am |
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Last one
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Posted: October 15, 2007 5:39 am |
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The main preset reminds me of some car seat covers I had in my first car
Well done
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Posted: October 15, 2007 7:07 am |
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Thanks Rawn! I'm hoping some 3D people can see a use for this filter.
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Posted: October 15, 2007 7:24 am |
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this one is very good, manon! love the great texturing here. very realistic! If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig
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Posted: October 15, 2007 1:22 pm |
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Thank you for noticing.
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Posted: October 15, 2007 3:52 pm |
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StevieJ
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Very "noice".....as Carl would say
The cloth detail and relief is perfect!!! Excellent work!!!
PS..... I would steal......errr......borrow Craig's drape effect and put these textures on it......  Steve
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Posted: October 15, 2007 4:13 pm |
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You think he would notice?  These would make nice cheap motel curtains though...
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Posted: October 15, 2007 4:37 pm |
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No, I'll distract him in the User Gallery while you grab the filter  LMAO.....
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I wouldn't call it that......just more common......which translates to more usable.....which translates to HU
PS..... I actually like the plain blue one the best...... Steve
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Posted: October 15, 2007 5:00 pm |
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I like the last one best.
I'll think about adding to this one. I prefer it this way as it works better for upholstry and clothing textures. Somehow I doubt anything I make here will get HU...ceiling is in the way.
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Posted: October 15, 2007 5:17 pm |
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PS..... I would steal......errr......borrow Craig's drape effect and put these textures on it...... |
oooh, that's a good idea! If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig
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Posted: October 15, 2007 11:18 pm |
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Ok, ok...you and Steve distract Carl while I swipe his drapes. He get's upset, I'm blaming the two of you.
Looks like someone already stole his drape effect as there is none in his library.
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Posted: October 16, 2007 2:06 am |
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Craig's latest drape filter......  LMAO...... Steve
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Posted: October 16, 2007 3:24 am |
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I'm legally blind so I didn't see the name right. Sheesh, you're a pain sometimes.
Well now it doesn't seem half as fun as it did when I was going to swipe it from Carl. Craig is being all willing and stuff.
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Posted: October 16, 2007 3:52 am |
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Filter is about to be submitted. It actually works very well with Craig's filter. Hope you like it Craig!
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Posted: October 16, 2007 7:23 am |
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Here's a sample of what a Craig & Manon filter union creates.
PS...yes Steve, you were right.
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Posted: October 16, 2007 8:28 am |
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It actually works very well with Craig's filter. Hope you like it Craig! |
well, i dont know whether to be jealous/outraged that someone 'stole' my filter, or to be flattered that someone thought it was good enough to use in another filter? i suppose i shld just take the high road and blame steve, regardless of what happens
seriously, manon, if you like the effect, submit it. or, you could wait till mine has a chance at HU and then submit it and we might both get an HU  If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig
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Posted: October 16, 2007 8:52 am |
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Hmmm...you said it was a good idea, so I didn't actually steal it.
Too late, I already submitted it, but don't worry, I have only earned one HU out of all my filters. You should get yours just fine. This one will get used probably and like many of my others, just hover in smelling range of the HUs.
As for taking the high road and blame Steve...shoot, no matter what road you choose to take blaming Steve for whatever and everything always feels good.
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Posted: October 16, 2007 9:14 am |
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What??? You're going to have to speak up.....I didn't catch that
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i shld just take the high road and blame steve, regardless of what happens |
I don't know what you are talking about
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no matter what road you choose to take blaming Steve for whatever and everything always feels good. |
Excusy  Steve
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Posted: October 16, 2007 9:41 am |
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well, i may have to steal your thunder in return, manon. i've been playing around with combining these two filters as well. hey, it is a good idea  and i'm quite sure our means and ways of combining will be different. i also see some wallpaper in the way i'm combining them, so maybe i'll go for that look. or maybe i'll just rip off one of steve's and crowbar it into all this. nothing like a little glass drapes to dress things up  If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig
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Posted: October 16, 2007 12:57 pm |
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That's fine. This is the last filter I'm submitting here anyway. If you want I can have them delete it. I'm tired of the ceiling.
I will continue to change the names on my filters and make a few changes to the old ones, but this filter I submitted is the last new one.
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Posted: October 16, 2007 12:59 pm |
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tired of the ceiling? not sure what you mean. what ceiling?
and no, dont have them delete it  i'm quite happy to have you submit it. in fact, i'm dying to see how you connected the two.
and why your last? that seems a bit odd from someone that makes such good filters. If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig
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Posted: October 16, 2007 1:22 pm |
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For months I have had a number of filters staying right up there near the HU section. I watch as favored people get HU after HU and filters jumping from page 45 or so to page 10 overnight. I see the rudeness that is directed at me here in the forums and it doesn't take a genius to figure it out that even if I created a filter that spit out 24 karat gold to the user, mine will never be allowed past that ceiling.
I like you, Steve, and Carl and you are more than welcome to email me and I will give you the link to my forums.
I will fix up some of my old filters, but aside from that, I am through with FF.
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Posted: October 16, 2007 1:29 pm |
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wow. well, i dont know who the 'favored people' are, unless it's uber and dilla, but they've become 'favored' simply because they make really good filters and deserve the status and HU's from what i can see. so, not really sure who you mean here.
and, you've already got your free copy, right? so, i dont worry about it too much for myself. i like getting HU's. it's a nice validation, but, if that's what you're really only going for, well, that can be a disappointing journey. i never expect my filters to make HU, or rather, i do try to make them of a quality that they will make it so, but i prefer to concentrate on making filters that make me happy or that make one of you guys happy. i dont know the folks that are adding to the HU usage, so, i dont know them. i know you guys, the folks in the forum. so, i tend to make my filters based on what you all like or, what i like. it's lot less worrisome than waiting for 'the masses' to show whether they like a filter or not. for instance, tailoring that one filter to what YOU wanted was quite fun for me and a nice challenge. i enjoyed that. so, if you, by using it, gave it a personal HU, then i'm pleased as punch and the heck with if it made it HU in the library.
i find this same thing on retouchpro at times. i make some piece of photo art that i really like and post it and nobody even says boo about it. i've got thousands of images i've never even bothered to post because i dont get any feedback on what i do post at times. and for me, it's all about someone else enjoying what i do. i mean, i like my own stuff for the most part, but if i can get one 'wow!' or one 'i really like that!', then i'm a purring kitty for a day  but, sadly, folks dont always comment and they dont always like what i like. it's part and parcel with being an artist. the disappointment at times can be almost debilatating and the lack of feedback quite frustrating.
i used to watch the number of 'views' on a thread at retouchpro when i'd post something. you watch the views count go up on the thread and nobody posts. did they like it, did they hate it, did they think it was just so-so? what? say something! lol. often, the view count would go to 50 or even 100 or more and no comment. how odd. are these views from folks not logged in that cant post or what? it can really drive you nuts. 'art' is above all, communication. communication says, i say something to you and you then say something to me. so, i'm there communicating, but getting no reply. quite frustrating at times. and it wasnt just me and my postings. it's the common thing. an artist can go straight into apathy and think nobody likes his/her stuff because there's never any return communication. "hey! i'm trying to say something here! anyone there? i can see you lurking in the shadows! speak up!" drives me nuts at times.
but there's another side to that coin. am i commenting on other's works? ah, that one will really trip you up. oops. i'm lurking too. i didnt say anything after looking at 50 different pieces. oops.
the wrong thing to do is to quit communicating. i'm going to quit doing what i love doing just because nobody spoke up or i didnt get an HU? nah, that never works well. i love this stuff! and i'm pretty sure you love this stuff too. i've even tried prodding a thread at times. you post something, nobody speaks up, so, you give things a bit of a nudge. 'what do you think?' would someone care to critique this?" or anything else that will evoke a response. i even threw a tiny tantrum once and finally got a response to that. lol. well, it wasnt exactly the response i wanted, but at least it was a response
another thing i've tried is, opening up my own lines of communication. like i said, communication is a two way street. so, sometimes i'll do nothing but respond to other's threads and posts. i've taken to making it a habit on retouchpro to try to comment on at least one gallery post per day or per each time i log in over there. i find it almost as rewarding as posting something of my own. there are really some remarkable talents out there and they want to be 'seen' also. so, i just let em know someone is there.
i dont know if there's any 'conspiracy' for HU's. and i dont really care. if someone is finding a way to pad their HU's, well, that's rather sad. but, that's them and not something i'm going to lose sleep over. i suppose if i really suspected someone of it, i'd simply report it via the FF contact email thing and move on.
and as for rudeness in the forums towards you, i dont see it. most folks here are pretty cordial. i've seen some light-hearted banter and teasing but not much outright rudeness. i do know that you tend to take some things folks have said as personal attacks on yourself when they really, probably werent meant that way. the whole thing with putting one's name in one's filter, that just seemed odd to me that after that discussion you changed and started using NE56. i thought you were perfectly justified in putting your name in there and was disappointed to see you cave a bit on that one. the hell with what 'everyone' says, at least at times. so, i know you can be overly sensitive to things like that. it's a trait of someone who's been hit one too many times. one starts looking for attacks where no attack exists. one can start 'reading between the lines' looking for that sort of thing when there's nothing really there. ya know? and that's what i mean by 'overly sensitive'.
you're a good person, manon and talented. i'd hate to see you just walk away. you do have friends here. If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig
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Posted: October 16, 2007 2:45 pm |
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i dont know who the 'favored people' are, unless it's uber and dilla, |
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Thanks to Steve, yes, but does that mean I should now forget about the upgrades because I have the "free" one?
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but there's another side to that coin. am i commenting on other's works? ah, that one will really trip you up. |
For quite some time I did comment on almost everyone's filters, but when someone snubs you enough times, why would you continue to post in their threads?
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I have and unless you are reading every single post in these forums, then you wouldn't know that.
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it's a trait of someone who's been hit one too many times. one starts looking for attacks where no attack exists. |
Ok Dr.Kraellin, good to know you read my post in the discussion forum and can now say without a doubt that I am only imagining that there are some people here taking swipes at me and or snubbing me. I will now be able to become a normal person thanks to your professional assessment of me.
Your word choice, not mine.
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the whole thing with putting one's name in one's filter, that just seemed odd to me that after that discussion you changed and started using NE56. i thought you were perfectly justified in putting your name in there and was disappointed to see you cave a bit on that one. |
Like I had said in that thread, I had been planning on using something else because ahimsa's was too long. All that thread did was motivate me. NE are my real initials. Like I had said months before, the name Manon is my art name. The name ahimsa is only a user name and will probably change in time. My real name will never change so using my real initials and birth year personalizes my filters even moreso than my user name which is a name that a few other internet users also have.
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you could wait till mine has a chance at HU |
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the wrong thing to do is to quit communicating. i'm going to quit doing what i love doing just because nobody spoke up or i didnt get an HU? |
Well, since communicating here has nothing to do with making filters, I don't get this line of logic at all. If I want to know how someone made a filter I will look inside. I talked to people here because I was so excited about the program that I had rose colored glasses on for awhile and thought the people here were all nice.
I never said I would quit using the program. I said the one I submitted this morning will be the last I submit.
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Posted: October 16, 2007 7:03 pm |
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O no this is no good - I know personally I get pleasure out of getting HU and there are filters I've worked long and hard on which slip down to low which I find worse than not getting a HU [ taints the filter against people in the future trying it as well, ya know it's low so it must be crap ] and some I try and improve others I've had deleted [ time for another culling LOL ]. So what I'm trying to say is feeling disappointed I think is completely understanding - to me the nature of any art is for others to like and approved of or notice [ even by a small minority ] denial of this is delusional, if you don't need this, one would never put anything into the public arena.
I also understand the comment side as in posting and being ignored and feeling it's a personnel slight and rude [ there are others who only post on there own filters ] - my solution is to not post comments in there filters and think lowly of the person - there is really only a very small group of regular poster - people come and go and chat where they think it will gain them the program then disappear [ I've seen it happen over and over again ] ironicly we would happily include anyone who wanted to join in our chats -
What do they say, body language is 80% of communication, it leaves electronic communication well short of ideal interreation with others and misinterpretation a likly consequence - which I know I'm guilty of doing [ this is not infering that you do ] I've read post in the forum where I interpret differently to the reaction of the people involed, persidio was a classic for over reacting and misinterpreting.
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unfortunatly it mirrors the really world where there are few genuinely nice people who aren't motivated by selfish ends - but and it's a big but we have got a small nice group which you are an important part off so don't be upset be happy and I'm sure craig wasn't trying to be mean
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Too late for a group hug???  Steve
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Posted: October 17, 2007 1:09 am |
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Great as long as I'm not on the bottom
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Posted: October 17, 2007 1:10 am |
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manon, all i'm saying here is that you may have a predisposition to reading things into what is said that may not be there. it's easy enough to do online. and i'm not saying that no one has ever been rude or malicious to you. but, if that is the case, then isnt it them/he/she/it that shld leave and not you? If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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LOL.....
Manon, I understand how you feel......and agree with some of it to a certain extent. Personally, I think that there has been some "questionable" activity alluding to some "hanky panky" with the usage stats and rankings. I believe that some authors have used second machines to run up usage on their own filters.....and I also believe that FF is also doing some manipulation to "guide" FF in a desired direction.....
As far as author abuse is concerned, I don't think FF is expending too much time and energy to police it.....unless it has been brought to their attention.....or they catch a really obvious one popping out of the woodwork.....like the "PT1" incident.....
As far as FF manipulation is concerned, Vlad owns this program (all or in part with his associates in Russia).....and he is clearly predisposed to wanting realistic textures along with skilled theme filters. I don't agree with his approach of showing favoritism towards just the types of filters that he likes.....instead of giving all filter types equal promotional weight and encouraging all authors equally.
I can also empathize with you on some of this because Vlad has never made a single comment on any of my filters.....nor have any ever been chosen as Editor's Picks.....when I have made some good HU filters (believe it or not  ) that are clearly worthy of being up there......especially in comparison to some of the low usage ones that have been left up there.....probably out of loyalty and appreciation towards some of the founding authors. There's definitely something "askew" if I can't get one while all those low usage filters and filters like "Coffee Stain" (no offense to the author) is being left up there. I don't know if it is personal or not (kinda feel that it is), but it has led me to believe that nothing I create will ever be made an EP no matter how good it is.....so I have given up on submitting my best filter works.....and have relegated myself to just submitting simple basic effects that I think people will find useful.....and just get pleasure from hearing if someone likes it and finds it useful.....
I don't let it bother me anymore......because the bottom line is that this is Vlad's baby, he put alot of hard work into this, and he is entitled to do whatever his heart desires with it......which is exactly what I would do if I were him......guiding towards wherever I wanted it to go.....
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Craig, this is my fault and I appologize for it.....you are correct, it does infringe upon usage of your filter.....I was just trying to help Manon and didn't think of it like that..... Steve
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