Metal Noir by jffe

Metal Noir by jffe
http://www.filterforge.com/filters/1498.html

Thanks. I've tried to update it several times, but each time I just stray waayyy too far from where it started, and I don't want to do a sequel filter for it, so I just skip it and move on. Maybe someday I'll do a mellow/minor update for it though ha-ha.

jffe

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Persidio wrote: Well it looked like a very hard background filter to pull off...

----It's not very complicated. The problem with updating it, is that I can make it waaayy better now, but in the process, it will lose all the presets, and it's overall look, and has several times, which is why I haven't updated it. If it were low usage I would, but average usage tells me a few people must like it as it is, and I can't see ruiing it for them ya know.

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Persidio wrote: I have a few of those I need to do myself.

----The updating never ends ha-ha, and will only get worse as FF develops and adds new modules.

jffe

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If it were low usage I would, but average usage tells me a few people must like it as it is, and I can't see ruiing it for them ya know.

Exactly~ It's like everyone is waiting for more 'zing'. I have some average useage filters... alot of downloads... apparently not enough 'zing' to pop. So... I'm going back and trying to update the 'zing' users are waiting for.

The samples above.... Nice Zing!!!! Zing, Zang, Bopperang!!!

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----The updating never ends ha-ha, and will only get worse as FF develops and adds new modules.

New modules... oh now that would be a good thing... and you are right... a nightmare of updates...

BTW... the second sample looks like Alien Script...

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I've managed to not totally ruin it, yet give it a bit more life,

That's a high wire trick~

I updated one of my first filters last night (one among 5 updates)... anyway... if this filter had raced a turtle the turtle would have won... no choice but to update for speed. So... the filters name was Gold N Silver... in the process of getting this filter to 'lightening fast speed'... it lost the silver... not kidding. Ended up having to rename the filter, LOL. I only get super nervous on an update if it's a HU... then I'm almost afraid to mess with it.

I love this update btw!! Very kewl.

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---Well, or they are just "slow builders" and will get HU eventually, or as soon as Stevie starts 3 threads about them in the forums ha-ha

LOL

Well one would hope just building slow and not ready to drop like rock~ I didn't do any more updates today because I've had too much fun making new ones...

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On that note, I actually had to really chill out and not do 1/2 as much as I wanted to on this one, so as not to ruin it, like literally had to NOT do stuff ha-ha.

That's the hard part of updating... tryiing to stay within a certain plan. When I'm making a new filter the plan is much more open or readily changed and opted out for a better idea as it comes to me.

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----I haven't updated any once they've got HU, I figure it's time to leave them alone then. To me, that's like yer kid got a jawb and a place of their own, don't touch it, it's doing fine ha-ha.

Oh I know~ And getting an HU is some kind of euphoria in itself... About Gold Weave the HU I updated... honestly had no choice,, it was way to slow for my liking. Says something about the filter when it's too slow and goes HU anyway... people liked it so much they were willing to wait on it. I felt like I owed this update to the users... 'now it's nice speed'. I'm sure the ones using that filter will be very happy to get that update~ And the only change on that one is the speed... the effect is just like it was. ((((Was scared to even touch the thing, LOL)))). Then I added more presets...

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Updating is very tedious, well, when you want to preserve what little appeal the filter had to begin with

Yea.. and the ones I'm updating are some of my first filters... I've been learning as I go... and I look at some of my earlier ones... oh I need to go back to that... I don't have any lows yet... but I know they are coming. LOL I only started in April, not sure how long it takes before they go low. (((I am positive that if I don't update some they will be.)))

Well sorry I didn't get back here earlier, had my head stuck in a filter...

Nite

P.S. A varient off one of your presets (I won't say which one in the threads)... makes 'perfect' grograin (sp?) ribbon... I have it saved as a preset and can send the ffxml if you want it. I know as a man this doesn't mean much to you... but ... have a feeling it might be an HU if you dared to make it... ((((On another note... this filter is sooo perfect for web sets and not feminine at all, just wanted to add that.)))). Nite

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Persidio wrote: That's the hard part of updating... tryiing to stay within a certain plan. When I'm making a new filter the plan is much more open or readily changed and opted out for a better idea as it comes to me.

----Yeah, it seems like the longer it's been since ya made a filter, the more changes come to mind when updating, and then it runs a heavy risk of being altered too far from it's original look.

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Persidio wrote: Says something about the filter when it's too slow and goes HU anyway

----That's maybe the one thing I hadn't really thought about. Someday when I'm really bored, I'll go look through my HU filters for possible render speed improvements.

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Persidio wrote: not sure how long it takes before they go low.

----Well, they start at average, but yeah, no idea how long til they plummet from neglect ha-ha.

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Persidio wrote: makes 'perfect' grograin (sp?) ribbon

----No idea what that even is. Gimme a hint, which filter ? I'm sure I can google "grograin" from there and see what it's about eh.

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StevieJ wrote: jffe, definitely some really cool effects in this one!!!

----Thanks I always liked the original main preset, and maybe a couple of the others, but this update really fine tuned it a bit, lots more possibilities, and better results when randomizing, although still a lot of boring stuff and ya gotta hit random 3-5 times, but it renders in like 15 seconds for the first pass, so you can see what yer getting in 7-8 seconds usually.

jffe

Long story.. FF ate the presets.. have a screen shot of it (taken before the error)... had to reload the filter... all presets gone. But I do have the image of the lost preset saved as an image. That's why I didn't load the ffxml... FF ate the presets.

All good now.. have the new copy in and have been making variations like crazy ... hoping to get the same effect.

Now I did get... music chords... with re-downloaded filter and new presets. Check this out..

I've already made a ton of new presets with this one. It's one of my favorite background filters on FF.

Music Chords... variation off a preset.. click to view larger image~

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Persidio wrote: Now I did get... music chords... with re-downloaded filter and new presets. Check this out..

----Err, like a music notation paper, the staff and bars thing ya mean ? I guess it looks kinda like that, to me it looks like really wimpy (thin) grating ha-ha, but it has a cool little shadow on the lower bar, so bonus points for the partial 3-D look.

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Persidio wrote: And here's the old grograin ribbon.. variation off a preset

----Hmm, it looks like maybe you dropped it down to below 600 pixels ? Not sure exactly. It also looks like before I range-limited the numbers of ProfGrad repeats, you won't get those finer detailed looks with the new versions, cause when ya hit random, 9 out of 10 times it looked like that rather than like nice presets I had made ha-ha, so I cut it back to 20 max instead of 100 or something like that. If you want I can email you the old Metal Noir, so you can still get the older looks (in case you saved the new one over it with the FF update).

jffe

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----Err, like a music notation paper, the staff and bars thing ya mean ? I guess it looks kinda like that, to me it looks like really wimpy (thin) grating ha-ha,

Really? Are you sure? I was going to use it on my Imeem page. They changed their site around and changed the formatting so I am going to update my graphics (have to because it messed my up my layout)... this means I have room for the edges to be filled while the solid black stays in the center. ((Listening to Imeem now)).

I guess I won't use it now.. thought it was kewl but don't want anyone thinking it is silly. Here is the site I was going to put it on for the edges.. www.temptressoffate.imeem.com (That's my Imeem music page... they changed the formatting and it messed up my layout... so I guess I will look to one of my filters to put the edging graphic in.. I was going to use that preset. Thanks jffe for letting me know it looked silly~ You're the best~ Not to worry though I just thought of one of my filters I can use instead. I still like this filter though. I'll find a use for it somewhere~ I luvs this one~

The preset variations above look really nice~

Oh the music strings,, that is the new filter... the ribbons are the old filter. I really wanted to try the strings with my imeem page.. I have a black silk filter (older one) I should use,, but I just fell in love with the strings on that preset and .. it is a music site. Don't worry if I don't use Metal Noir for this project I'll use it for something else because I luv the filter. Just really thought the strings were kewl.

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If you want I can email you the old Metal Noir, so you can still get the older looks (in case you saved the new one over it with the FF update).

I would luv to have both the old and new Metal Noir!!!

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Just for anyone besides Persid still checking this thread (ha-ha),

No way I'm the only one in luv with this filter~

Oh jffe thank you~

Well I don't think I'm going to use my black silk and there are some other presets from the metal noir that I want to try.

I don't think they will let me have access to the CSS for the page otherwise I'd floodfill the patter then use a semi-transparent to hold the text in the center as it floats over the rest. What I might do then is make a image that fades out to black at the top,,, that way it doesn't edge the center graphic. I won't do anything for a week so I have plenty of time to mull over just the right background filter. It's either going to be one of yours,, one of Ron's or one of mine. (I have filters in mind from the three of us.) I promise you Metal Noir will be my first pic for the page. The page is only two months old and liked by over 150 people so far... thanks for the heads up on the strings...

and thanks for the old Metal Noir!!! You are the best

I thought I'd show 6 more random examples. I hit random/variation a couple times on each of the 1st 6 presets, below are the results, time spent = 12 1/2 minutes, counting this post.

jffe

i like the last two best.