Damaged Concrete by Carl

Damaged Concrete by Carl
http://www.filterforge.com/filters/3524.html

Looking good there!

I'm with Rawn: Give us some grit and grime and weathering.

And the steel reinforcements could look a look more rusty, maybe like the rust on this one.



Just my 1,618 cents...

Looks Good~~~!!!!

Grabbing it now~

Carl, you are the man.

Got to complement you on 2 things
1)you put yellow color into the concrete, that is so true to life. Just the other day I was asking my wife what caused the rust color and she thought I was a wacko, I was asking because I was thinking of making a filter Who besides Filter Forgers notice small details like that, good job.
2)Best concrete look to date, seriously.

Having worked with concrete one summer I have to agree with Crapadilla's suggestion, rebar is rusty before it goes into the concrete, so a way to effect the steel rust level may be nice; however, with that said after concrete dries and then is broken of the rebard it usually paints the rebar grey matching the concrete.

Also rebar is ... how can I explain it??? Grooved... I don't know if that explains it, here is a picture http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Trebar.jpg
So if you could make it groved that would be more photo-realistic as well, good job.

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Kraellin wrote: actually, it's ribbed. this is to give it more surface area to hold the concrete better. a straight cylinder would tend to slip more within the concrete.

Partially correct .....shallow crossing spirals.....don't use straight ribs because creates fracture/break points.....I was a steel fitter for many years

LOL.... actually, now that I think about it, some sill tie rods are smooth with welded bolts or just L-curved on the ends to hold them in the cement.....so I was partially.....wr....wro....wrong Getting harder to admit that in my old age

That last one is looking really good If you want it even more realistic....criss-cross the spriral ribs, make them less pronounced (just barely see them, and add some rust stains on the cement from the rusting rebar....

If I have interpretted the "Editor's Pick" formula correct, this should definitely become one!!! Vlad won't even make a comment on any of mine.....let alone consider one as an Editor's Pick.....I'm starting to get a complex about it LOL.... J/K.....I just don't do the type of filters like this that he likes

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Kraellin wrote: we'll just call this one, newly damaged concrete

Good idea.....two versions....old and new damaged concrete.....

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Kraellin wrote: can you spread it out more and is that built in as a control

another good idea

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Kraellin wrote: i'd be more concerned, though, with the render time. 12 minutes is a fairly long render for a single texture

Yeah, this definitely looks like an "Uber Challenge" to me.....any chance of getting him out of retirement??? LOL.....

ok, i see at least three things where you might be able to speed this up. you've got two high passes and a cells. the cells shld be replaceable with a perlin. there's nothing that special you're doing with the cells that the perlin cant do.

the high passes may be a different matter, though. still looking....

Good thinking on swapping out the Cells Component..... I just popped the hood of it.....and you can see that it is hanging up on the high pass.....

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Mike Blackney wrote: Hey, I just saw this one. Wonderful work!

Thanks Mike, good to see you back


Kraellin thanks for help so far { hint still needs your input } I hadn't realized how the cell would almost double the time for rendering - I'd put it in to stop a flattening which occurs under the reo when large areas are exposed [ more obvious when tiling is switched on ] I know it must be acheivable wiht fine tuning so are still fiddling with your help - thanks again I think that I'm going to have make this a joint filter

Reo what it's called here - if you follow redcaps link to the wiki [ which also calls it Trebar ] then on to the meaning it mentions the aussie word Reo , I was glad he put the link in cause I spelt it Rio LOL

Carl...

Amazing filter! Very nice work!

A couple of suggestions for the finished product:

Rebar doesn't actually weave in and out. Typically, the workers will place a layer of bars parallel to each other, then place a layer perpendicular to the first. The intersections are then tied together with wire. I don't think the wire ties are necessary in your filter, but is it possible to simply show one horizontal layer laying perpendicular to a vertical layer underneath? Also, maybe allow for a bit more spacing. Typically, 6" centers are fairly common.

Also, is it possible to add a bit of aggregate to the broken sections? A bit of color, a bit of rust stains like others have mentioned?

I am not being critical at all. This is an extremely nice, useful and thought out filter. I can't create it myself...only adding suggestions and comments.

Very nice

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Revelation wrote: Typically, the workers will place a layer of bars parallel to each other, then place a layer perpendicular to the first.

adjusted

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Revelation wrote: Typically, 6" centers are fairly common.

more adjustable

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StevieJ wrote: A bit of color, a bit of rust stains like others have mentioned

adjustable grime etc now included
I've also added cross ribbing on Reo and rusted the bars, and a switches allow plain concrete / plain damaged concrete / plain damaged concrete with Reo
Thanks everyone for the suggestion / encouragement, I've found a few annoying bugs which occur with the random which I can't get rid of things that really shouldn't be effected. It would also be great to have a greater depth to play with. I've basicly gone mad trying to get this to work properly going between over complicating to loosing the essence. I still have to make new presets etc, and after all this I should have run this through the Users Gallery first, and I'd love to acheive more but the time is a limiter, Kraellin if I could ask more of you, I'm resubmitting for tomorrow if you could have another peek and make any more time saving ideas I would greatly appreciate you'll notice I've reconstructed hugely including get rid of the cells as you suggested.......... my brain a fury blob from this seemingly simple task of a lump of concrete - all the suggest have been great thanks again everyone....... adding one new pic

Carl....you nailed it! Perfect! I'll be using this filter frequently

Nice job!

Carl you have turned this into an excellent filter. It really looks like reinforced concrete. I bet we will see this one in a game.

Has this been updated to where I can download it again?

Oh, and it is very, very tough and rugged!

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Oh, and it is very, very tough and rugged!

Did I miss something here? Has the butchness of Carl's filter been called into question?

Hmm, maybe I should get to work on a flannel filter…

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his true desire to make pastel needlepoint and crochet filters

Yes, things like hearts, eggs, metallic pastels, suds and bubbles … wait a minute

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ronviers wrote: Quote his true desire to make pastel needlepoint and crochet filters Yes, things like hearts, eggs, metallic pastels, suds and bubbles … wait a minute Blush

Heheh, just saw this one after I posted
Well, there goes another one, girls... poor Ron

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Did I miss something here? Has the butchness of Carl's filter been called into question? Hmm, maybe I should get to work on a flannel filter…

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Yeah, I'm not buying the "tough and rugged" thing.....I think this filter is a clever ploy to cover up his true desire to make pastel needlepoint and crochet filters

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Yes, things like hearts, eggs, metallic pastels, suds and bubbles … wait a minute

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Well, there goes another one, girls... poor Ron

Operation Flower Power is going quite well.

Hi Carl~

I couldn't let this one fall in the threads...

heading over to make filters now~