Gouged & Scared by Carl

Gouged & Scared by Carl
http://www.filterforge.com/filters/4531.html

HEHE I've almost milked Dilla scratch snippet to death

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ahimsa wrote: You're still a brat

No you are

which is your snippet

had a look and sounds like a challenge - trouble is it look like a good complete filter already - but you've inspired me to have a play

What is this abomination??? LOL.... just kidding, buddy......looks cool.....Kinda like some kind of alloy alien matallic surface

Very Very Very nice filter Carl,
looks very realistic, But...
it is a bit 'Noisy'
( has a little too much noise )

But other than that,
GREAT Filter

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Carl wrote: it not as sharp as i'd like

Yeah, I would take out that light perlin noise layer altogether.....then metal/chrome the hell out of it.....I have just the filter to help you do it

Thanks KG for your post it has prompted me to try understand mapping better [ I'm a traditional 2d artist ] I have adjusted this filter as you have suggested and there is also now controls for varying the noise in the normal map, will resubmit now for Monday . I will look at the other filters next week as they're fairly complicated and will need a greater amount of rewiring and time, also I'll have look at a bullet hole generator with transparency . I think I might have to reassess some of my other surface filters. Appreciate your post

Looks much clearer Nice work!!!

So, this work is still "scared", eh???

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StevieJ wrote: scared

mmmm another update I see

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KGtheway2B wrote: Big improvement!

Thanks KG

Looks very good on thumbnails, but lacks details on larger renders.

Diffuse map:

-Color-
You made a step in the right direction with the diffuse changes, but I think you should go a bit further. From what I can tell right now the color in this is determined only by the lighting situation. It has no color besides the little bit of gray in the swirley details. Add a "base" color, gray would be the typical choice for your presets, but who knows, maybe red or blue might look good, you definitely want to give people the choice.
-Detail-
You are on the right track here with the shifting from normal grain to diffuse grain, but the diffuse is still lacking. I think that if you succeed in getting the normals up to par a diffuse map with less contrast (and more of a basic flat detail) would do wonders. Take a look at this diffuse: http://www.filterforge.com/filters/1384-diffuse.html (Ignore the top and bottom detail, focus on the "belt" in the middle) It's fairly plain, it's got some nifty details here and there but for the most part it seems to have fairly low contrast and some boring colors. If you added some more oomph to the diffuse (even some perlin noise would go a great distance) it would be great.

EDIT: Here's a nifty noise you might be able to use: http://www.filterforge.com/filters/4516.html

Normal Map:
-Too 'Smooth'-
Sharpening up the look of the normal map would be a big help for this filter. It would make the cuts and gouges look a bit more like they were scratched instead of smoothed off. Now I'm not just saying pass the normal by a sharpen filter, what you need to do is make the edges look rougher, take a look at this one: http://www.filterforge.com/filters/1478.html that's a good example of one approach you might take. (Although I think you shouldn't go quite that rough, especially for the scratches)

I'm gonna submit this before I accidentally close the window. I'll edit if I find it needs better explanation.

Also: once you get this one perfect, I demand you go back and re-do your other concrete filters too.

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Carl wrote: are you talking about a particular map or just the whole thing

I was talking about the default preset.

Yes, it's much better now -- looks excellent with the right lighting:

yup, that's lookin better.

now that's interesting, dilla, cause i was seeing gouged and chipped rock. lol. aint that just always the way

hehehe.

I agree.

And it definitely needs a name-change (or at least a spelling correction)!

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Vladimir Golovin wrote: re-specializing this filter to metallic surfaces

I can remap the reflective blurring to restrict.

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Vladimir Golovin wrote: I changed the lighting environment to "Forest", and moved the sun to the middle of the left hemisphere.

Yep does look better - will use suggestion

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jffe wrote: run much faster.

will have a look at that - every new bit slowed it down more and more

thanks every one - this one has turned out to be a good learning help

Hey Kg Been having new computer internet problem so its taken a while to get through all my emails. You've been huge help with this fitter and for future filters, I owe you one

yup, nice one, carl

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Crapadilla wrote: good to see this having become HU!

yes was happy with that funny looking at Vlad preset fiddle I don't know why I didn't adopt it, it looks so much better than mine bit late now I did get some happy use out of your scrach lab snippet Dilla and I have noticed other have used it

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Kraellin wrote: yup, nice one, carl

thanks Craig, I always hoped Crevice would go HU which was all about the same time /Base

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KGtheway2B wrote: Carl still owes me some revamped concrete filters

I'll have to look back and see what i was going to do

LOL ok sent update