Lab Enhance by ronviers

What I do without spot metering is walk right up to someone and put the camera in their face and get a reading. It gives me a spot reading and makes them feel special.

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ronviers wrote: Thanks Sphinx! I never would have thought of that. I was just telling ahimsa yesterday that I did not understand the AA settings.

Ok - perhaps we should add an entry on AA setting in the DO's and DONT's then

So are you saying the AA settings are saved as part of the filter? I thought that any changes I made to AA would be overridden by the user's local FF settings.

That's ok, I will rtfm.
Thanks!

I think it might not be downloaded or none I've just check have thought off changing it

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Carl wrote: I thought the same

Something about the placement in the GUI makes the AA settings seem separate.

To clarify:

A preset block in the ffxml starts with this element (notice the attributes):

<Settings size_factor="6" variation="16998" seamless="true" antialiasing="3" map_type="0" edges_only="true"/>

Its commonly known that we can set Size/Pixels (size_factor), Variation and Seamless Tiling, because these are placed logically in the Filter Controls section. However as we can see in the Settings element above, we can also control antialias samples ('antialiasing'), antialias mode ('edges_only') and even Map Type

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ronviers wrote: Did it just get sleepy in here?

LOL, well sometimes it pays to look at the content of the xml filter files

It won't let you download with a different map as default I've tryed that, I tryed to that using the mettallic map

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Carl wrote: It won't let you download with a different map as default I've tryed that, I tryed to that using the mettallic map

Ok.. well that does make sense - however what doesn't make sense is why they have that atttribute in all the presets then...

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Sphinx. wrote: You can safely disable AA completely if your filter/preset: - do not add new content (like frames, squares, noise etc)

Ohh.. it's not all there is to it - if you change the position of content (e.g. using a noise distortion), you might have to use antialiasing (and moreover 5 samples might not be enough if your distortion scales down areas)

Wow! I just tried maximum on all pixels using my orb filter. It brought my system to a near stop. That's some serious calculating. Unfortunately it looks about the same as before.

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Carl wrote: amazing and so much realler

Your right. I just bumped the orb back to 5, it went from 9.5 minutes to .5 minutes, and it now looks awful. I'm embarrassed to send it out. You guys have ruined my filter library.

Don't worry the user will adjust for there needs

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Sphinx. wrote: Ok.. well that does make sense - however what doesn't make sense is why they have that atttribute in all the presets then...

I do wonder still whether it would except the anti-alaising change in downloading

HEHE

Sphinxs have you uploaded one with different AA

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Carl wrote: Are you calling my user low quality scum

Not all of them

HEHE

Thank you.
I'm rendering a super high quality one now I will post in that thread for comparison.
I think you will like the new update.

sorry posted before I got your new post

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ronviers wrote: That's something I do a lot. I will see what I can get away with on my flag effect filter. When would it be a good idea to increase the AA settings? Is there a time when maximum is best?

When your distortion results in areas that "zooms out" the input, i.e. creates areas with tiling or fold like bends etc. its time to start experimenting with the sample count. Because here you reduce areas containing many samples to areas with less or even a single sample, and then you need to increase the sample count (from a qualitative point of view that is).

The ideal no. of samples is roughly equal to old area / new area, but obviously we don't have that kind of control over the sampling, so thats why you have to find some middleway by inspecting the result.

Often you'll end up with 65 samples being the one looking best, but as you've noted this can be a real performance killer - so go for some reasonable compromise

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Carl wrote: Sphinxs have you uploaded one with different AA

Hmm.. no, not per preset, but that should be possible (to be honest I've really only been checking if AA were needed or not in general for a complete filter).

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Carl wrote: I do wonder still whether it would except the anti-alaising change in downloading

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Sphinx. wrote: I've really only been checking if AA were needed or not in general for a complete filter

I just checked it and the aa settings definitely do follow the filter preset.

You can verify this by looking at the last preset on this filter here.

I have not tried it yet on a filter posted to the library but this seems like a valid test to me.