SpaceRay
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I want to to give some possible suggestions for GF Spirograph and Cutout Generator by Ghislaine
Of course that the suggestions below are ONLY that, and you are totally free to do whatever you want with the filter, and it is totally up to you to do it as you want, and does not need to be like I suggest. ADD OPTIONAL COLOR CONTROL FOR COLORIZING AT THE END I want to suggest that you could add an optional color control with a multiply blend mode at the end of the components so you could add the source colors to the final spirograph design without scaling or destroying it in the middle process. To do this right and get a good result, you have to choose a white color as color control, so then at the end the colors of the final source image are not modified. SPECTRUM COLORIZING Another suggestion is that you could add an optional Spectrum colorizing as option and a checkbox to change from the source color control to this spectrum gradients and give some controls over the spectrum as rotation or repeat. COLORIZE EACH OF THE ITERATION INDEPENDENTLY Now all the spirography has the same color but maybe it could be done that alternatively and optionally each of the iterations could have a different color as seen in my Spirograph Break Out USE MORE COMPONENTS AND NOT ONLY FREE POLYGON Also I have seen that this has a source selector to choose different style, BUT all of them are using the same Free Polygon component, and I want to suggest that you also could give more choice with other components too. ADD A SQUASH CONTROL SLIDER In the Free Polygon there is a Squash setting, and I have tried it and gives cool and interesting results too, and I think it would be good and useful to have a control in the settings tab for this, and you would only need one control, as the free polygon component are exclusive, I mean, only works one of them each time. ADD A ZOOM TO THE WHOLE DESIGN As it is now, all the designs are always contained inside the frame and no part of them are missing, and I can suggest to add an scale component at the end (before the color control I suggested at the end), and be able to use this as a zoom and be able to "travel" inside the spirograph design. ADD SHADES BETWEEN THE SPIROGRAPH WIRES In this case is better to show it with an example than explaining it See the preset 3 of the Glowing Spiral by Kochubey Also see preset 3 of my own Spirograph Break Out |
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Posted: December 29, 2013 3:30 pm | ||||||||||||||||||||
Ghislaine
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I did not want to intervene after reading your long list of suggestions. Finally, I decided to reply to let you know my feeling.
1. I'm neither you nor Kochubey, I'm Ghislaine. 2. I have my own creativity and I want as little as possible copy others. 3. With your list of suggestions (sure there are good ideas among them), you should try by yourself the loop component according to your ideas. 4. I know what I do and how I want to share this filter. I was happy to share it "AS IS" with the community, but with what you have written, I lost all motivation to exchange the dozen other filters (with other forms and also multicolor) that I have experimented with the loop component. I'm not against suggestions. And if you realize that I made ​​mistakes in my filters, I am willing to rectify. But then, this is too much. 5. I've been a long time without coming here, and I came back with 10 new filters. But if it is like that, I'll still be a long time without returning. 6. Looks like you ask the moon, instead of being happy with a basic model that can give you wings to fly away with the loop component. This is not the first time that you make suggestions on my filters and other filters ... By the way, would you forget a few suggestions? I am not against the suggestions. And if you realize that I made ​​mistakes in my filters, I am willing to rectify. But then, this is too much. visit https://gisoft.ca |
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Posted: December 29, 2013 11:46 pm | ||||||||||||||||||||
SpaceRay
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I am very sorry and I am feeling bad and regret it that I have made you feel you bad, because I never thought that this could be something bad for you, and I am sorry if I have explained it badly and missed out some important things that I think that maybe you have misunderstood in my suggestions and will explain why below
I will not suggest anything else to any other author about their filters You are Ghislaine the Queen of the FF Spirography and I welcome you back and hope that you KEEP showing and sharing your beautiful and original creations with us. Please read this again
I was going to show my suggestions with a thumbnail image of what I have done already to have an example for you to see and did not it as I thought that I was "breaking" your filter and then did not do it, but now I think that I should have done it to avoid the possible confusion of considering this a request list. Maybe I should have explained and put also that I have already made myself most of these suggestion and that is NOT at all a request list, and I should have thought that this could be a basic filter as you have already done before with others, and then you would make other more complex versions with other features. BUT I think that maybe the right things is that I should NOT make any other suggestion to any filter of any author
And I will now explain what I think about your answer
Of course that you know what you do, and you have already much experience in FF, so you know well how to do things, and you have many good ideas and like how you do things, sorry if it may seem that I was telling you to do things in any other way, this was not my intention, and this was just possible ideas and suggestions I had, and not something you have to do. I am very sorry if what I have written have made you feel that you lost the motivation to exchange any other filters and you could keep sharing all your beautiful and creative ideas and know all. I should have remembered that you like to make multiple variations of similar filters with different shapes and ways to works with them, and do not make just one or two with many available features. Please, What can I do to fix my error and you can get back your lost movitation? I would like to see your original, innovative and cool experiments you make and of course that everyone could see them too. I promise that I will not make any other further suggestions of any other filter.
I am happy and glad that you are back to the forum and sharing again new filters from yourself that I consider original, innovative and different from any other FF author, and this is something I have always thought, and not telling you about it now. I thanks you for sharing again with all the FF community your filter creations and would love to see more of your great works, and would be a pity and regret much if you go away again because of these comments and suggestions. Please stay with us, but of course I would never force you to do it in any way, you are free to do whatever you want.
Well, I am NOT asking you in anyway to do it, and this is NOT at all a REQUEST list for you to make it for ME, because this is not at all my intention as I have already made myself and tested most of this suggestions (only have not done the shades and the colorization of individual threads) and some of these are very easy things to do, but as said it is totally up to you to make them, as it is YOUR filter and not mine. I am happy with the basic model that you have done and is great, clever and well done, and like it, is very good to learn, but I have thought wrongly that it was perhaps too basic considering what all the beautiful things you have done already before and what can be done with the loops now, although of course that doing spirography with loops is NOT the same as you have done them before, and you have to do them in another way. I agree with you that this filter can give you wings to make more complex designs and with further features, and I like it as a basic filter. Maybe the right thing is to NOT suggest any possible changes, and do not gives ideas, as they could be considered
Of course that you are NOT like me or like Kochubey, you are Ghislaine, the Queen of the spirography as you have already shown before very good, original and cool things, and you have of course your own personal style, is this is what I like from you, that you make thing different to others in the forum. I would never suggest that you COPY any other author style, and this was not my intention at all, only I wanted to tell to show like an example.
Well, as already said above, I have already tried most of them myself because when testing your filter I found that when loading a image into the color control it was scaled too much and I wanted to know why this was happening and went inside, and then saw what was happening, and then also have seen the well done and good work you have done and that this had a great potential to add many other new things, and had the bad idea of suggesting all this things above.
I am not telling that you have made a mistake in the filter, because is not true, and with the colorization with source image scaled too much could be done rigth if this is what YOU wanted, and may not be a mistake, and what I suggested is that you could offer an alternative way, and not to replace what you have done All this suggestions are NOT to rectify anything, was just simple suggestions for maybe a future update or alternative versions. This is my personal point of view, and you may of course your own personal point of view and I am not telling you that you do things my way.
Yes, is true that this is not the first time, but there is something important that makes the big difference, in others comments I have made before I was really requesting in some way that you could add my suggestions to your filter as I did not know how to do it, OR I knew but was feeling that you could share a version with this thing included, BUT as it has passed already more than 1 year since that, now things have changed and I have learnt more about FF, and I now know that I can´t request others to do things with their own filters, and this why is was just ONLY suggesting it. I can forget about all the sugestions, because you are free to do whatever you want with YOUR filter, and I am not anyone to tell you what to do, and it´s up to you to share or not in your filter some of the things I may like that others could have in your filter. Sorry for all the trouble and bad feelings I have made to you |
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Posted: December 30, 2013 5:14 am | ||||||||||||||||||||
SpaceRay
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Sorry for the bad feelings I have generated on you and for making you loose time in writing all you have written on this thread and the bad consequences and decisions you may have taken because of this and the time taken to read my answer above.
As said, to avoid again possible confusions and misunderstandings I will not suggest any possible ideas or changes to a filter of any other author, unless the author asks for it. I hope and wish that this problem happened here will not make you really loose the motivation to keep making and sharing your nice filter creations. As Bono, the singer of the music group U2, has made in this music video I tell you that I´m really, really sorry for this and I do not want to loose you. U2 - Sweetest Thing ![]() |
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Posted: December 31, 2013 3:30 am | ||||||||||||||||||||
Skybase
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haha ... oh SpaceRay.
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Posted: December 31, 2013 5:45 am | ||||||||||||||||||||
Ghislaine
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OK SR, don't fix yourself in the past, turn the page ! Let's start the new year in peace !
visit https://gisoft.ca |
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Posted: December 31, 2013 10:41 am | ||||||||||||||||||||
SpaceRay
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Thanks Ghislaine, I agree with you and glad that you can turn the page and make as this did not happen, and you can continue being yourself with your own creative and nice ideas and we can start the new year in peace
![]() Hope and wish to see many more good, creative, nice and original filters you make, BUT not because I want them myself, as anyone in the forum is free to share or not the filters they make and I thanks you for doing it if you want. Happy New Year 2014. Best wishes |
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Posted: January 1, 2014 4:03 am | ||||||||||||||||||||
Ghislaine
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Happy New Year 2014. Best wishes
visit https://gisoft.ca |
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