Colorful Scrapbook Patterns #2 by DJI

COLORFUL CHILDREN'S BOOK BACKGROUND THINGY.

maybe?

So here's a fun question: as an author of this filter, how would you use it?

Alright, it just caught my eye because it was super colorful. I get attracted to that.

Personally I thought I'd just modify it so instead of it being a rainbow, I just thought it might look nice with these schemes as well: http://www.colourlovers.com/palettes/...eta?page=2

Rainbows are technically some of the hardest gradient schemes to use in terms of design since white / black text or any color drowns in them. This is simply due to contrast.

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What I want to know is why neither you nor anyone else has jumped all over 3D Reflective Smooth Techno Photo Effect?

Actually there's a thing with that. I did notice that filter and I was playing with it but I didn't have time to leave thoughts or examples around due to daily workloads. (I work at an extremely busy design firm so it kinda hinders me doing personal work.)

It's also part because, unfortunately, the filter takes very long to render. At 600x600 it's taking 2 minutes with a relatively fast machine. The images I was feeding were 6000x4000 so it'd probably take about 30 ~ to an hour minutes depending on what I would be running at the time. I typically do work and sneak some FF matters behind. So there's that.

I also think it just simply got buried amongst everything else you submitted. You did dominate the recent list haha.

Hi DJI,

Please accept the following as constructive feedback and not criticism.

Skybase has a very good point. If not for this discussion, I never would have looked past the first preset of this filter because of the impractical color scheme, and I would not have downloaded it. On further examination, I like some of the other presets much better than the default one, but the colors still clash. When I need a bright playful image I still want one that has a deliberate and pleasing color scheme.

I am still not sure what this filter is trying to be. There are some nice patterns, but the forced rainbow aspect reduces the filter's usability for me as a pattern filter and rules it out to be used as a background.

So ok, I'll leave some ideas around.

One of the key elements of making filters for the open public is to make it as user-friendly and customizable as possible while keeping your ideas of design intact. So you basically just need to think about what other people really want from your filter. Surely "usage" is a matter of whoever finds it useful, but most people simply want to use a filter for their needs, and having the ability to customize it to their liking is what's likely to be appreciated.

In the case with this filter, the key problem emerges: that the initial impression of the design is hyper rainbow and hyper vividness, and the shapes are generally fixed to it's appearance. So in terms of the filter, despite having several controls, it's actually not as flexible as it should be.

This is the challenging part of FilterForge, and also the most rewarding part if you achieve it.

To start the train of thought, here's what a google image search of "colorful scrapbook" reveals: https://www.google.co.jp/search?q=scra...+scrapbook

Note the overall homey muted scheme of colors and the comfortable tone the images share. Also note the simple design and composition of each pattern. This overall constructs the idea that a scrapbook is a personal item and not something showy. While there are a few exceptions in the search, a good number of them present that feeling.

Now honestly, I don't really know your process of making filters. So forgive me if I'm really just blabbing on about stuff you may have already considered. But the whole idea of constructing a filter is about constructing what you and everybody wants.

I hope what I'm writing here kinda helps getting the idea flow going! If in any case the idea isn't as clear, I absolutely would love to help.

In the end you are one of the most prolific uploaders to the public library. So I bump into your filters very often.

How's about this for muted colors? https://lunabludesign.wordpress.com/20...l-rainbow/ Or this? https://www.etsy.com/listing/187270810...ref=market Or this http://enlivendesigns.us/2014/04/brig...-download/ Or this? https://www.etsy.com/listing/118445023...ting-other Or this? http://jamiebrock.hubpages.com/hub/Fr...d-Patterns Or this? https://www.etsy.com/es/market/rainbow_paper Or this?https://www.etsy.com/listing/68802464/...book-photo Just to name a few. And yes I am prolific,all the girls say so.

I get your point. If it's rainbow so be it.

Your examples highlight some of the ideas I'm getting at.

Each example there considers a careful selection of colors even if it's simple as a rainbow. The pattern design also extenuate the appearance of each color further leading to a vivid and fun appearance. So while not necessarily muted tones anymore, the point's the same: there's design in these examples.

In this example: https://www.etsy.com/es/market/rainbow_paper you can see a mild bias towards redder colors. There's less of blue and more warmer tones overall. Again, people are selecting colors based on what they want others to feel and collectively this leads to a certain bias towards certain hues.

In designing things, as these examples show, it's really really a matter of what you're driving at. I just think in the case with this filter, it's a really careful matter of color scheme and selection. I think taking the time with that would really help the filter's appearance and the output.

The image I attached is a very basic example of what I mean. This is an example I used for a client of mine when choosing colors.

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Many teachers show there students how to start a scrapbook and in that case the cheaper the materials the better. I make filters with Filter Forge. Why not use this program to make some nice simple images that they can run off by the thousands?

Um, for this purpose it's less expensive to buy some cheap gift wrapping paper than to purchase FilterForge, spend hours looking for appropriate filters, render them and print them out.

I think your thinking to hard. Let your guts do the talking. Yes, I agree that the squares above are really balanced and the color scheme is nicely done and oh lord I know my filter an't perfect. But it'll do for now.

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Um, for this purpose it's less expensive to buy some cheap gift wrapping paper than to purchase FilterForge, spend hours looking for appropriate filters, render them and print them out.

It's cheaper to buy FF basic once than wrapping paper a thousand times. Then all you need do is type in patterns and BANG your home free. Saving yourself all those grueling hours searching for that elusive appropraite Filter.

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I think your thinking to hard. Let your guts do the talking.

You heard my guts talking!

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and oh lord I know my filter an't perfect. But it'll do for now.

Aye! Please don't take me that way. I'm not trying to discuss perfection or "what's right." I'm just talking about what could be strengthened for the sake of design and the open public. Maybe somebody else will see this discussion and see something else... potentially make more filters too!

I forgot to add that this filter rendered very fast. My original renders were 3600x3600 at 300 dpi. That standard for scrapbook digital paper and they all rendered in my Paintshop Pro in about 4 seconds. I don't have anything fancy either in a computer.

Hey! I just checked out your filters. I've had most of your pattern filters for a while. I love this one.

LOL I'm just a Filter Forge lover that remembers long ago when I got battered around and told by several people in my life that I had to conform or I was not worthy of their time. Sorry but I found it was them that had no art in their souls and I had no time for them. Believe in yourself, keep making what YOU like and you will be so much happier in your life. Besides anyone that quotes Oscar Wilde in there signature is alright in my book.

Glad you like my non commercial junk. Hehe.

Just my opinion:

DJI filter : I personally like it and I downloaded it. It is not too slow, even I use an old PC. Sometimes liking a filter or a color variation can also be simply a problem of personal taste and it is not possible to say who is right and who is wrong.

About Sky base : He is strict and picky ( ha ha ) but he just trys to teach something based on his experience. Reading well what he writes can be useful.

I would make a carpet with the main preset. It would look nice, I think.

Thanx Ramlyn for your comment.

Check this out folks. My default preset in the default preset of Wild Orb Perspective by Voldemort.

Mardar! Your filter's choice of patterning, color, and many elements (the slight offset between shapes) were always lovely. It's the subtly in the detail that you put in that really nails it for me. And you really did a good job presenting this filter.

DJI, I'm super sorry if I'm just picky to you (and the rest of you). Over the years the FilterForge community has lost it's vocal critics and it's passionate designers and I feel as though me and several others are the last ones around. Unfortunately, this kinda comes down to me becoming "that guy". However, I personally think the FF community doesn't go anywhere without people speaking openly about stuff. And just as much I think filters that don't have much being talked about ends up just like an orange left in the corner of the fridge, forgotten and never seen until clean up. I'd think it's sad if a filter ends up in that position but it happens all the time. So I swear, the one thing I'd ask people is please don't take me as a giant negative bomb. I really try to consider each thing.

With that being said, I worked with your filter a biiiit more and took into consideration many of what's being toss around. First off, I never thought it was a bad filter. I just thought it needed some considerations with color schemes and design like Mardar's examples.

I'm going to say just a few more things about this filter before I leave this thread behind like a pair of old sneekers. The fact that Mardar was able to use this filter so well sez to me that it's not just the filter that matters. It's also the person at the controls. Without a doubt this filter could be improved upon. Every filter has it's weak points. So let's leave it at that,shall we?

Thank you Skybase for your very kind words about my work. I do appreciate it very much. I was not trying to say you were a negative bomb, or was I inferring that criticism and suggestions are unwelcome. I have gotten some of my best advice on this very board. I just think sometimes a positive must also be given a pat on the back or all that criticism begins to sound like a very giant hammer without an end in site. For a flower to grow you must give it nurturing as well as pruning. Skybase you have made some absolutely beautiful and useful filters, and I have been awed by your work, but sometimes your posts do seem to be very harsh and I think you sometimes forget we are all different and not all things can be saved from the scrap heap. Some oranges must shrivel and we learn from that heap of oranges what works and what doesn't. It's the way the world works. I hope there are no hard feels here because I certainly didn't want that to happen with anyone on this forum. DJI is working out his skills on this board and that is wonderful and I hope he pursues more on this line. We all have to work out the kinks in our own way. I hope you both have a wonderful day and good filter building to you both.

Mardar