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Posted: May 12, 2008 9:52 am |
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Carl
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this has a nice marble look Benna
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Posted: May 12, 2008 10:01 am |
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Kraellin
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i like this too, for the most part. some of the darker presets look more like chipped, rough marble, though. and i'm curious if there's a blur on the ingrained pattern at all. If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig
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Posted: May 12, 2008 1:14 pm |
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StevieJ
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I skipped over this one at first.....but just gave it a closer look.....and it does have nice patterning and appearance of depth.....nice work!!!
I would suggest expanding this one with some different color concepts.....  Steve
"Buzzards gotta eat...same as worms..." - Clint :)
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Posted: May 12, 2008 3:58 pm |
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Benna
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Thank you.  I'm just digging in here, so hopefully I can make more exciting things soon. Did you guys learn this just by poking around?
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Posted: May 12, 2008 8:30 pm |
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Benna wrote:
Did you guys learn this just by poking around? |
For me it was a combination, of plug n play a great way to discover, see a cool filter and look at the guts and realize " hey I didn't know that " and using snippets [ which are there to be used by authors, lipstick kiss is a classic of using craigs perfect arc snippet ] and of course while building a filter little gems happen which you can expand and use to solve or make other filters - [ another cool thing is to run a development thread in the users gallery on a filter where people will suggest improvement or solutions to problems ] - I tend to have a fixed idea of what I want the final filter to look like or do, so it is in a way working backwards - a key I think is to utilize curves and blending - oh it also doesn't hurt to look at some of the wiki stuff of do's and don'ts etc - ok long answer to a short question, it's a lot of fun however you approach it
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Posted: May 12, 2008 11:16 pm |
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Kraellin
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i learned by posting as many stupid questions and stupid filters as i could to the forums. oh wait, i was supposed to say, 'who says we lerned?'  If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig
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Posted: May 13, 2008 7:26 am |
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StevieJ
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I started learning by experimenting with all the components first.....then moved on to learn alot of advanced concepts and "component tricks" by doing alot of mad experimentations on other peoples' filters.....  Steve
"Buzzards gotta eat...same as worms..." - Clint :)
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Posted: May 13, 2008 3:15 pm |
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...on other peoples' filters.... |
lol! If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig
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Posted: May 13, 2008 9:22 pm |
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Benna
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Thanks guys! Sounds like fun.
What does the copyright afford the author in this case? Other people's filters are free to use, you just can't rename it and claim it or are the results of filters somehow linked to the author as well?
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Posted: May 14, 2008 1:09 am |
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Carl
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It's a bit of a touchy subject at the moment - you can do whatever you want in what ever way you want full stop. The unwritten authors etiquette - you don't clone [ with this one they can be removed from library ], you don't do minor adjustments like add an alpha or simply combine two filters , if you use a snippet or a bit of some one elses filter you credit them in the filter description, you don't fill the library with ill thought out no effort useless filters like green blob 1, green blob 2 [ though every one starts off with crappy ones ] that about it apart from poke fun at Steve occasionally
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Posted: May 14, 2008 2:05 am |
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Carl wrote:
poke fun at Steve |
Excusy???
I hate to admit it.....but Capt'n "Cheekasaurus Rex" Carl has it right....  .....  Steve
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Posted: May 14, 2008 2:58 pm |
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actually, there is one imposed limit on filter creation. you cannot copy anothers filter and submit it as your own, not if there isnt at least some fair amount of changes to it to 'make it your own'. the FF team does scrutinize filters for duplicates/clones and rejects those that are too similar to each other. as to what constitutes a 'fair amount of changes', i dont know. that's up to the FF team to decide. so, if you ever see a fairly blatant copy of your own filter having been submitted to the library, do contact FF and let them know and they'll look over the filters involved and make a determination of some sort. If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig
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Posted: May 14, 2008 3:46 pm |
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Well, thats not a problem then. Got better things to do than sticking my name on someone else's filter. Not quite sure what the appeal of that would be
Mainly I'm interested in finding out...
If I use someone elses filter in the process of generating a texture or composition in photoshop for commercial purposes, do I need to get written permission, pay off, or officially credit the author of the filter the way I would have to in many cases if I used someone elses photographic image? I haven't read anything yet that definatively says yes or no. Maybe I just missed that.
Thanks for the continued wealth of information, this is pretty fun.
Benna
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Posted: May 15, 2008 1:52 am |
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yes, i dont understand why someone would want to do that either, but it's happened a few times.
no, you dont need written permission. read the end user's EULA and particularly the author's EULA. If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig
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Posted: May 15, 2008 8:49 am |
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