Engraved Delight by Beliria

Engraved Delight by Beliria
http://www.filterforge.com/filters/5803.html

very nice engraved patterns, glad you submitted

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Beliria wrote: Submit as a new filter or and update when I do?

Tighten up the controls so that the good look doesn't break with excessive adjustments or randomization, and I'd also suggest to add some presets like the one below . Better to submit this as an update, not as a new filter.

Gurr trying to make that pattern you found Vladimir, might take just as long trying to find that combination LOL

thanks Rawn, Carl and Vladamir. I did the changes hope I got the right ones.

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Crapadilla wrote: Control naming should also be reviewed in the light of the 'engraving' theme set forth in the filter name. Personally, I'd remove the possibility for square kaleidoskope patterns..

I have. Just set it to Kaleidoscope 7 only which is what made that, and taken out the dark switch, and a few other things too , and lowered some of the number settings.

Doh! I knew it reminded me of something.. third update a rename?

Heya Rawn.. um.. I have about 50 versions of this filter now LOL, some of them are with different nodes. Have you tried changing the formula's on the nodes too? Gets even more interesting when you do , and adding more curves and things. I think it's one of them never ending type of filters.. I've played with the mirror options in the profile gradient, moved the offset around in there too, and all sorts .

sweet, what sort of mayan style are you looking for? Never know I might have come up with one in all the ones I have.

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Kraellin wrote: modded the filter just a bit by adding more controls to the perlin

LOL don't get me started! Nice one though Craig . Should see some of the variations I have on this filter , mind if I post them I'll get a when will you send that filter in, requests. I've done ones with different curves, more curves, extra nodes attached to different curves and places, even did one with the tile to see what would happen and well its sweet . Even got a cool wedding gown like satin fabric from one of the variations.

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Crapadilla wrote: and its fast!

Yep... bad news is other filters seem to take a lot longer now , am like gee! You not rendered yet! Then the timer comes up and says 35 seconds.. And then I think.. wow that all? Seemed a lot longer!

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Crapadilla wrote: "3x Extract HLS into Assemble HLS" construct with a single blend component.

Ooo.. Good idea.. although I'll have to figure out what you mean .

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Crapadilla wrote: Also, don't neglect the potential of the 'reflection blur' control. Some metals are rather blunt instead of shiny.

I know.. Watch out for version.. 3 update, when I figure out some of your suggestions.

Oh! Doh!... Thanks for the screen shot.

I blame that I am still on my first cup of coffee...

Cool suggestion Dilla! Have just put it in and wow, got rid of a whole heap of bit's I didn't need

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Lucie wrote: Good job

Thank you Lucie, its a bit of a monster though..or a rabbit.. not sure which, has breed loads of children so far , and um 3 updates, sent the last update in and realised the colour was off so had to do another update

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Lucie wrote: You're much more patient and determined then I am with this!

And far, far to much free time .

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Lucie wrote: You must be learning an awful lot in the process though

Yep am learning load's and it helps when other filter creators give you input, which I really appreciate, specially when its advice on how to make something work better .

But mainly I am having fun seeing what combinations I can come up with. I love that changing a small portion can created something totally different, or even make what you believe is a great filter even better.

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Crapadilla wrote: Now it's more like a relief.

LOL, I didn't do much, just added the things you suggested plus tweaked the brightness a little bit, and fixed the the color which I had subdued a bit when I did the v0.2 version update.

So the relief might be created from the blur slider.

This is just my personal taste, but I'd never put versioning in the name of a filter (unless it was a snippet).

Some suggestions on control naming:

Colour ---> maybe: "Base Color" or "Tint"
Matt to Metal ---> Metallic
Matt to Metal Blur ---> Reflection Blur
TPattern Offset H ---> Pattern Offset H
TPattern Offset V ---> Pattern Offset H
Tile increase ---> maybe: "Tile Detail"
Tile Emboss Swap ---> sounds confusing... "Emboss Style" perhaps?

The Order of controls is also important. Never use automatic ordering! I'd always sort them for importance, starting with the most generic/global controls at the top and putting all the 'detail' controls at the bottom. Furthermore, controls should be structured into logical/functional groups. For example: Metallic and Reflection Blur both control shading, so these should be grouped together.

Another thing I noticed: Take the default preset and drag the color to a white. Notice how the engraving detail gets lost when nearing pure white. This is the kind of thing that happens when you don't separate the 'color' part of a filter from the 'height' part. Below I've attached one possible solution to the problem. Note how the color map is generated from the heigth map via an elevation gradient. In the case of a color change the height map now stands completely unimpressed, as it should be.

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Crapadilla wrote: But maybe that could be made into a feature (i.e. become a control).

I've added a 'Relief Invert' control to illustrate what I mean. To me it looks better when not inverted, but... that's just me!

Engraved Delight V0.2a blatantly crapified d1c.ffxml

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Beliria wrote: That sure was a lot of editing you did Dilla

You know, I just kept finding things...

... in my spelling, that is!

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Beliria wrote: Thanks for tweaking it and showing me Dilla

I'm glad you don't mind!

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Beliria wrote: work out were I am going wrong

You're already on the right track with your work, it appears!

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Small tip: you can replace the whole "3x Extract HLS into Assemble HLS" construct with a single blend component.

dilla, i saw the same thing and took it out in one of my edits, but noticed i'd lost some of the color in some of the presets, so i put it back in and the color returned.

that could be, dilla. i'll have to look into it. sounds right, though.

Okay fingers crossed this will be the last update for this filter.. for a while at least . This is the version that Dilla tweaked by adding a relief and sorting the black/white brightness issue out, which I then tweaked a bit more myself.

Thank you Dilla for the help

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Crapadilla wrote: Congrats!

WOW I didn't even notice that! Hugs and thanks Dilla, cause you fixed the issues I was having so its kinda a joint EP

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Carl wrote: congrats Beliria

Thanks Carl!!



*Starts pushing her filters over to Dilla* *Coughs*

congrats, bel!