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Kraellin
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Double Weft Weave by ronviers
http://www.filterforge.com/filters/7249.html ![]() If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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Posted: April 27, 2009 12:34 pm | ||||||
Kraellin
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this one is freakin cool! nice job, ron
![]() If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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Posted: April 27, 2009 12:35 pm | ||||||
ronviers
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Posted: April 27, 2009 12:51 pm | ||||||
ronviers
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Posted: April 28, 2009 3:44 am | ||||||
Kraellin
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very nice! thanks
![]() If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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Posted: April 28, 2009 2:47 pm | ||||||
Kraellin
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you know, ron, i think i'm going to quit downloading your filters until at least the sixth update on each.
![]() If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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Posted: April 29, 2009 7:42 pm | ||||||
ronviers
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I know. ![]() I already have another update for this one but it is only a slight improvement and it does not address the basic issue that I keep getting ugly numbers. I developed a system using thresholds to align the blend profile curves, so I know how to set it to where it *should* be, but when I do, it looks bad. I would rather it look good than be correct but I would really like to reconcile the differences. I'm tempted to peek and see how Constantine does it, but I'm *sure* I can work it out for myself. If it didn't look as good as it does I would pull it until I get it fixed, but for now I am just going to leave it and not post anymore updates until I nail it. Sorry to everyone for the inconvenience. @ronviers |
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Posted: April 29, 2009 7:55 pm | ||||||
StevieJ
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I don't think so.....I think it shows that you care and want to perfect your work.....and I like that quality in people..... ![]() Steve
"Buzzards gotta eat...same as worms..." - Clint :) |
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Posted: April 29, 2009 8:12 pm | ||||||
ronviers
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Well thanks StevieJ. That's definitely putting it in the best light.
![]() Don't worry Craig, I will not let this turn in to another YinYang fiasco. Actually, I feel bad about YinYang, but I learned so much from trying to make that filter that I would do it all over again. ![]() @ronviers |
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Posted: April 29, 2009 8:31 pm | ||||||
Kraellin
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hehe, it's fine, ron. i love your filters. just teasin mostly due to how many updates there were with yin-yang and if ya did 20 more it wouldnt bother me, but i'd still tease ya
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Posted: April 30, 2009 1:45 pm | ||||||
ronviers
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Yeah, I really had it coming. In fact, I have requested that the yinyang filter be removed from the gallery. I will re-submit it once I have time to really nail it down. I am going to leave this one because even after I get it fixed, it will look just about the same. I really appreciate you taking the time to provide feedback on my work. ![]() @ronviers |
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Posted: April 30, 2009 1:52 pm | ||||||
Kraellin
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what is it you feel still needs work on yin-yang?
and, you're welcome ![]() If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: April 30, 2009 2:06 pm | ||||||
ronviers
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The profiles on the bevels are ugly and not controllable by the user(other than width). IMO, if the user does not get control over the bevels, then I need to provide a really pretty bevel, and gaussian just does not do it for me.
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Posted: April 30, 2009 2:13 pm | ||||||
ronviers
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Do you think 'Double Weft Weave' is a good name for this filter? The new style option I added, where one of the strands is reversed, does not look like two weft strands (it looks more one strand that is twice as thick) - and I would like to keep that second option. Can you think of a better name?
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Posted: April 30, 2009 2:17 pm | ||||||
ronviers
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I just found this on wiki:
"The warp threads run lengthways of the piece of cloth, and the weft runs across from side to side." So I guess this would be considered a double warp weave. ![]() @ronviers |
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Posted: April 30, 2009 2:33 pm | ||||||
StevieJ
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My friends call me "Steve"..... ![]() ![]()
I've already accepted that I will never get it right the first time..... ![]() ![]() Steve
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Posted: April 30, 2009 8:03 pm | ||||||
ronviers
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Me either, at least not in this lifetime. ![]() @ronviers |
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Posted: April 30, 2009 8:08 pm | ||||||
ronviers
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But I also know for a fact how reluctant you are for people to see your unfinished work too. Remember the project you never let me see? Btw, how cool is this filter? oddButFun.ffxml @ronviers |
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Posted: April 30, 2009 8:13 pm | ||||||
Kraellin
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i think i originally learned that as woof and warp, but i might have learned it wrong
![]() ![]() and i played around with your 'oddbutfun'. pretty cool ![]() ![]() oddButFun rev 1 Krae.ffxml If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: April 30, 2009 9:30 pm | ||||||
ronviers
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Kraellin wrote:
i seriously doubt if i were to advise you to leave the damn thing alone, name and all, that you'd take that advice[/quote] When I first look at it, it looks fine. But if I just stare and stare at it, then it starts looking like crap. ![]() Wiki mentions woof as an older alternative to weft, but I had never heard that.
Something relaxing about it. That is an unusual mod. I never thought of using kaleidoscope that way. Never really ventured into kaleidoscope at all. Too difficult to control. @ronviers |
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Posted: April 30, 2009 9:59 pm | ||||||
Kraellin
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well, as the doctor told the guy who said 'it hurts when i do this'... quit doing that! ![]() yes, kaleids tend to be shunned a bit around here. lol. and i think i'd change the way i did that one, if i were doing it again. but, i did like the idea of adding depth by making that a surface type. it's got a bit of an engineering feel to it on some of those presets or maybe of those 'connext' building blocks. If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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Posted: May 1, 2009 8:20 am | ||||||
Kraellin
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i had to have another play. i cleaned this one up a bit (as opposed to my last one) and changed things around quite a bit. i didnt add back any controls, as i have to go to work now, but i like having found the stars bit
![]() oddButFun rev 1b Krae.ffxml If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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Posted: May 1, 2009 8:45 am | ||||||
ronviers
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Cool.
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Posted: May 1, 2009 3:15 pm | ||||||
Kraellin
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Posted: May 1, 2009 3:33 pm | ||||||
ronviers
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Posted: May 1, 2009 3:36 pm | ||||||
ronviers
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Posted: May 1, 2009 3:40 pm | ||||||
Kraellin
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good change! that shows it up better
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Craig |
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Posted: May 1, 2009 4:11 pm | ||||||
ronviers
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I am working on a very interesting modeling project right now but I would like to come back to it when I get some time. I have tried to get a winner in the pattern category but both of my previous tries went LU.
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Posted: May 1, 2009 4:19 pm | ||||||
Kraellin
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pattern types seem to be one of the hardest to get HU's in. i got one or two, but that was when there werent 6000+ filters, too. it can be done, though. just find a pattern that is highly recognizable, like my childreen's wallpaper one was. i think that may be the key; something folks can recognize and have some familiarity with.
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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Posted: May 1, 2009 4:37 pm | ||||||
ronviers
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Are either of you still using CRT monitors?
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Posted: May 3, 2009 7:45 pm | ||||||
ronviers
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Posted: May 3, 2009 7:56 pm | ||||||
ronviers
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If I drag the step wedge to my CRT I can only see eleven. I can see all fifteen on the LCD.
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Posted: May 3, 2009 7:58 pm | ||||||
Kraellin
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i have a crt on my win 98 machine, but my crt on the xp machine just burned out and i now have a 22 inch lcd. and yes, i can see all of those marks. the lcd came with a calibration chart.
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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Posted: May 3, 2009 8:01 pm | ||||||
ronviers
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How many ff users do you think still use the CRT? Could you have made out all the marks on your CRT?
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Posted: May 3, 2009 8:03 pm | ||||||
Kraellin
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i've no idea how many have crt's, but i do know they are very cheap, for a larger size and very nice picture with more internal tweaks. i was pleasantly surprised.
as for the marks on my crt, mostly, yes, though admitedly those ones on the far right and left were pretty tough to be sure i was really seeing any diff. that's another thing that impressed me on the lcd; i had no problem making them out on that. If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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Posted: May 3, 2009 8:08 pm | ||||||
ronviers
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I think there is a tendency for people to operate their LCD monitors too bright. They come from the factory set very bright and I am not sure most people turn them down.
I guess I should make my presets with the assumption that they will be viewed on a correctly configured LCD, but I am not sure that is valid. ![]() @ronviers |
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Posted: May 3, 2009 8:13 pm | ||||||
ronviers
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I just noticed that there are sixteen steps but I did not notice white.
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Posted: May 3, 2009 8:15 pm | ||||||
Kraellin
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lcd's are a bit of a problem in their display being that the angle one views them at is so critical to a proper display. that was one of the reasons i was so hesitant in buying one. the quality has gotten better, but i have to be somewhat careful how i angle my monitor when working or i end up being off a bit. still, i doubt i'll go back to a crt; the extra dynamic range is worth it and the size per dollar cost is quite a bit nicer than crt's. plus, retailers just arent carrying crt's any more around here. cant even find one.
i dont know about too bright. mine did seem bright at first, but on doing the software calibration, it seems fine now. 16 huh. hmm, so it would seem ![]() If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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Posted: May 3, 2009 9:10 pm | ||||||
ronviers
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I have one of the cheapest LCDs on the market, an LG 1440x900. It does ok when viewed straight on, and even handles some right to left shifting, but if I raise or lower my head even a few inches then the picture quality nosedives - it acts as a reminder to keep my back straight.
One of the things I like best about it is its weight. It replaced a CRT that must have weighed 30+ lbs. I'm not going back to CRT either but I hope the LCD's will someday have better blacks and saturation. @ronviers |
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Posted: May 3, 2009 9:21 pm | ||||||
Kraellin
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yes, the weight is much less. i like that also. i wasnt real keen on the 16:9 widescreen format, at first, but i'm used to it and even enjoy it now.
i've also noticed the blacks problem. sometimes my blacks look a bit green, though for the most part, that only seems to occur when i'm viewing a lot of text and even then i'm not sure if it's not eye strain ![]() the one thing i have noticed that is a bit disturbing, is that my crt seemed to do better matching up to my printer colors. i think this is one of those things about the brightness you mentioned with lcd's. now, i expect my prints to be a bit darker than the monitor representations. that's just normal, but it's a bigger disparity now with the lcd and even shows a bit of hue differentiation, which i never had with the crt and this printer. the hues comes out generally a darker shade. so, if i had a bright green-yellow on my monitor, the print might come out a green-green and a darker shade. it's not by much and the text here makes it seem more exaggerated than it really is. it's really not far off, but where i was REALLY pleased with this printer before, the lcd seems to not match up as well. ah well, maybe it's time to get a hardware calibrater and start using photoshop's gamut feature more. If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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Posted: May 3, 2009 10:24 pm | ||||||
ronviers
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I am not even close to spending money on that. I have a million other things I need to worry about. Some of the most disheartening questions I see on the forums are from experienced professionals that cannot get their color loop closed. So I am not going to waste my time trying. I adjust the gamma of the individual colors so that my grays stay neutral across the spectrum of black to white, and I set the black level, then call it good enough. This is a bad time for color management - guess it has been for a long time. The one company that could fix it, microsoft, seems disinterested. I was hoping that Vista would provide a path for everyone, but they seem incapable of using their dominance in constructive ways. It may have to come from a company like Apple or Canon - but even if they started now, it would take them years to get something pushed through the system. I guess we are a long way from it being easy. ![]() @ronviers |
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Posted: May 3, 2009 10:56 pm | ||||||
ronviers
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It sure is taking ff a long time to remove this and my YinYang filters. I notice they appear not to be processing new filters either, maybe it's related.
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Posted: May 3, 2009 10:58 pm | ||||||
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Posted: May 3, 2009 11:16 pm | ||||||
Betis
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Definitely OCD placed pebbles.
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Violets are #0000FF All my base are belong to you. |
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Posted: May 3, 2009 11:28 pm | ||||||
ronviers
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