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Some with rust/textures, from 3 different filters, 2, then 4, then 2. Comments, criticisms, complaints, anything but your lunch order, I can't help ya there.
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Posted: March 7, 2008 1:43 pm |
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StevieJ
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I really like the first one alot.....clean, simple, uniform texture, nicely defined relief, no unrealistic layers.....guarranteed HU.....or I will run naked through the forum.....  Steve
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Posted: March 7, 2008 1:50 pm |
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I really like the first one alot.....clean, simple, uniform texture, nicely defined relief, no unrealistic layers |
----Ugh, the most boring of the boring  Thanks for checking them out and commenting though. I'm still trying to get a feel for what "normal" is with shapes/patterns and especially with the metallic/textured 3-D stuff.
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Posted: March 7, 2008 5:27 pm |
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----Ugh, the most boring of the boring |
Set me up for that, didn't you???  LOL.... Steve
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Posted: March 7, 2008 8:09 pm |
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i see profile gradients being followed by a kaleidoscope or two  and i agree with steve, #1 is the best here, as far as practical uses. i still like the others, but not of how much they would be used. i play with patterns all the time but rarely submit anything because even though i like the look, i cant see any practical application. i'm not trying to discourage you; i do like these. i could see #1, 2, and 4 being used in something architectural, but not sure of the others, even when i do like the look. as for just aesthetic enjoyment, #4, 5 and 6 i like the most. and if it werent for those diagonals, #7 and 8 would fit in the same category as #1. If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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Posted: March 8, 2008 9:51 am |
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Set me up for that, didn't you??? |
----Oh some part of me probably knew ha-ha.
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and if it werent for those diagonals, #7 and 8 would fit in the same category as #1. |
----What is it about the diagonals that people here don't like ha-ha ?! Certainly we've all seen lots of grates/gates/whatever with diagonal metal bars running through them. Is it just that the center bar is always the thickest and that's not looking right ? That is a pesky remnant of the kaleidescope, and could probably be worked around if it had to be.
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because even though i like the look, i cant see any practical application. |
----Yeah, I hear that, and I am trying to avoid any overly obtuse patterns and avant-garde pointlessness overall, so these thumbs up or thumbs down threads do serve their purpose in that way eh.
----Thnaks for the ongoing comments, I'm slowly getting some better ideas about what people are looking for.
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Posted: March 8, 2008 1:13 pm |
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well, i a real world context, the diagonals just dont belong. if i were doing some 3d architecture for a game or architectural design, i just wouldnt want the ones with the diagonals. they just dont match up with real world objects. that's the only thing i can see.
for aestheic purposes, there's nothing wrong about them at all. but for practical applications, you're just not going to use the diagonal ones that much...i would think.
and yeah, i know all about the oddities of the kaleid. it can be a real headache trying to get rid of one tiny aspect on a render and keep the rest.... **nightmares** If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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Posted: March 8, 2008 1:21 pm |
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real world context, the diagonals just dont belong. if i were doing some 3d architecture for a game or architectural design, i just wouldnt want the ones with the diagonals. they just dont match up with real world objects. |
----Hmm, sorry to drag this out, but you said "match up" and that got me thinking, you mean like the angle or how they look, or well umm, anything ? I have no idea what that means really, as I do not play videogames nor have I seen much digital architecture if any at all.
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Posted: March 8, 2008 9:04 pm |
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yeah, match up, like being the same as. you do remember the real world, right? sorry, just being a smart-ass here
ok, take your last image. that's a good example. the grainy part, the gray/black/whitish part with the oblong cutouts is what i would consider a real world match up. it matches up to something out there in the real world. but the other part, the mono-color grayish brown part, just doesnt look like it belongs with the other part, the grate part. so, if you could lose the background part, the rest would make a perfect grate/grill object.
ok, and in saying all that, there's still nothing wrong with them like they are, any of them. they are patterns and kinda cool looking. but, if you want more chance at an HU out of them, or if you just want folks to use them more, real world stuff is almost always going to go over better. that's all. If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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Posted: March 9, 2008 12:49 am |
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yeah, match up, like being the same as. you do remember the real world, right? sorry, just being a smart-ass here |
----So they just don't look good together, ie = they do not 'compliment' each other, o.k., got it.
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real world stuff is almost always going to go over better. that's all. |
----I guess I kinda *know* that, but I always hope that people are tired of the same old same old, and won't mind (and might even like or welcome) something that reminds them of the old one, but is a little new/different. But that's my own fault for thinking that, or wanting things to be like that I guess eh.
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Posted: March 9, 2008 8:33 pm |
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nah, dont get me wrong. there's nothing wrong with your stuff here. it's fine. and as a pattern alone, it's perfect. it is what you meant it to be and that's about as close a definition to perfection as i can think of.
but, if you want to match up with something 'real', then i'd lose the background parts or do another filter that loses it and keep this one the way it is. If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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Posted: March 10, 2008 1:23 pm |
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nah, dont get me wrong. there's nothing wrong with your stuff here. it's fine. and as a pattern alone, it's perfect. it is what you meant it to be and that's about as close a definition to perfection as i can think of. |
----Oh, I appreciate the *sskicking ha-ha, I post these examples because I am that out of touch, and I want to "real it in more" (pun intended). Like most folks, I enjoy the results of most anything I do, usually, but that doesn't make it good, or even good enough. I wanna pay rent in 2K9 with muzak and graphics, and I've been too much of a know-it-all shut-in to accomplish that til recently. To turn a phrase, I want to "sell out or die trying" ha-ha.
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but, if you want to match up with something 'real', then i'd lose the background parts or do another filter that loses it and keep this one the way it is. |
----I'll have 2 versions, and you're probably right.
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Posted: March 10, 2008 4:23 pm |
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ok. If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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Posted: March 11, 2008 1:30 pm |
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O.k., I spent another 2 hours tonight (why does it ALWAYS take longer to change a filter 15% than to just make a new/different/funner one anyways ?! ha-ha), and here's what I managed to squeeze out of the last 2 examples above, that filter now looks like....
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Posted: March 12, 2008 10:45 pm |
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ah, you've textured the diagonals. looks good  If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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Posted: March 13, 2008 9:02 am |
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ah, you've textured the diagonals. looks good |
----Yeah, the flat shiny metal was looking kinda weak I guess, and to make the shiny metal have depth just made it like those other ones, where it was *round* bars, and then the bumpy part looked even paper thinner. Someday I'll learn how to layer stuff, then maybe watch out ha-ha.
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Posted: March 13, 2008 2:12 pm |
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 If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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Posted: March 14, 2008 8:41 am |
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