Just fooling around

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ahimsa wrote: From the same filter

What filter
Could you give us a hint... maybe

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ahimsa wrote: more samples to post in a bit.

ok...

Thanks Craig. I am still playing with this one. It's kind of a difficult one to get the shiny presets out of.

a posting frenzy! i think i like the gold cup one the best

sorry, didnt mean to curtail the show. please, be my guest!

ah. yes, lots of variety there. the first two are quite different. the first looks like metal leaf, while the 2nd looks more like stone/sand.

And the last two look like corroded sci-fi or fantasy type walls. I'm going to concentrate on that one first, then the stone and sand one.

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Faerun temples!

?? rpg's? which?

hehe, never played those. were those the laura croft ones?

cool beans

hehe, oh now i remember. that was the series where one of the early versions had a secret 'nude' level. lol. almost bought it for that

The nude level was never for real. Teenage boys were just wishing it had.



Poor Lara, fanboys lusting after her pixels.

She's actually pretty now, but she plays like crap.

never winter nights. i have that somewhere. i'm trying to remember which one that was. two came out about the same time that were rpg's. one had a sort of modular editor with it and was also very moddable. i did some modding on that one. fun, but sort of a klunky terrain system. nice items and monsters, but the terrain was sort of modular goofy.

never did dark sun. hated ultima online. good idea, poorly implemented. played another big mmorpg...boy, cant even remember the name now. played that one for a while. but finally gave it up for all the flaws in that system too.

i actually built an online rpg myself once, way back in the early days of the internet, a MUD. quite fun, 3d ascii mapping environment. very innovative and it didnt get stale on you like most of these current rpg's get. i know the secrets of making a good game and i know the pitfalls of rpg's very well. it amazes me to see current rpg's still make the same mistakes over and over again.

never did elder scrolls either.

hehe, my rpg online experience pre-dates the internet. i used to be on compuserve and genie. we used to play games like 'dungeons of kesmai' and 'dragon's gate'. extremely fun games done in ascii mapping. i had way more fun on those than any current high res rpg i've seen.

Asheron's Call. that was the one i was trying to remember. BIG online rpg! they had some interesting stuff but still did some really basic mistakes in rpg's. still, that one was sort of fun.

lol. lusting after her pixels! rofl. hey, she was HOT!

yup, island of kesmai (aka dungeon of kesmai) was cool. they used a double ascii character map, which means simply, this: [] would be one space and is a wall. very simple and very effective. so this would be a room:

[][][][]
[] . .[]
[] . . /
[] . .[]
[][][][]

fun stuff the game i designed used that same system, but had height. quite tricky for ascii graphics and 2D we had line of sight lighting and vision. all the normal creepy crawly things, but a completely different way of spawning them. and, they had a rather unique intelligence, that was oddly easy to code. i also had a very STRONG story line built on ages of conflict, hatreds of magic users and why and a completely new way of looking at mages/magic users and justified why mages were physically weak both in story and in the mechanical numbers of the system. basically, the whole system worked backwards to all other rpg's i've seen. the idea was that centuries of conflict had weakened all classes and types, but this part was hidden to the user. the system underlying used a reverse way of advancing. you werent growing stronger by increasing your stats, you were growing stronger by removing the old stigmas and traumas of years of war. and whether you wished to believe in 'genetic memory' or 'past lives' as the rationale for this, it worked very well.

therefore, and this was the real secret of the game, there werent 'gods'. oh, there were some, remote, obsure, mostly unseen. but the main idea was, that at one time, you WERE the gods. and the trick was to return to godhood, not grow to it newly. and i had a really clever, integrated system of stats. just about everything affected everything else.

i had two coders working with me. i was the owner/chief designer. the two coders were both geniuses, one ended up going to harvey mud U. and the other went to teach microsoft how to code brilliant guys, both. i loved that game

ok, so NWN's is 2 now. sounds cool. and i might well check it out. have been looking for a good rpg lately. liked morrowind. hacked the heck out of it, but once i start hacking a game, it's the end of the line on the story i cheat too badly after that i had a flying thief/magic user that was unstoppable

i did like NWN-1, and did do some scenarios for it, one of which a few friends and i played for a bit. that was sort of cool. so, a really good NWN, with a good editor could be just what i'm looking for. thanks

and ya know, it's really ok to just say, 'go check it out'. i really dont feel like you're nagging/pushing if you do that in this context

Oblivion great but it crashes my system with some bad side effects [ cause of I have an Hp scanner ]

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I know that NWN2 is actually looking to have some of the community join up... paying jobs for helping them improve their story line and system of play. Might want to check that too?

oh, now that would be cool. a game design consultant. right up my alley i think i actually have that game still installed on a harddrive somewhere. a nice, fat 2.1 megabyte drive. lol. were they ever really that small?

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Crapadilla wrote: Ah well, these days, I don't have time for MMORPGs anyway...

+2 .....I used to play C&C (Command and Conquer) for the strategy quite a few years back.....then got into PS2 Armored Core series (mech warriors) for the unlimitted design combos and strategies.....wish I had time to play it, but it sucks you in for days on end.....

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Kraellin wrote: [...] basically, the whole system worked backwards to all other rpg's i've seen. the idea was that centuries of conflict had weakened all classes and types, but this part was hidden to the user. the system underlying used a reverse way of advancing. you werent growing stronger by increasing your stats, you were growing stronger by removing the old stigmas and traumas of years of war. and whether you wished to believe in 'genetic memory' or 'past lives' as the rationale for this, it worked very well. therefore, and this was the real secret of the game, there werent 'gods'. oh, there were some, remote, obsure, mostly unseen. but the main idea was, that at one time, you WERE the gods. and the trick was to return to godhood, not grow to it newly. and i had a really clever, integrated system of stats. just about everything affected everything else.

Craig, that's a marvelous concept that I've never seen realized anywhere. VERY cool!

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Kraellin wrote: and jan, i went and looked at the NWN's 2 site this morning. couldnt find a demo to download.

Let me go check, Craig... I have some pics of my character I'm playing if you'd be interested? Should post them in the General forum maybe? if that would be ok??


Oh, and Crapadilla, can I call you dilla too like the guys do? It's a lot easier on my typing, less mistakes