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Carl
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look forward to it's submission
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Posted: August 12, 2008 6:50 am | ||||||
Kraellin
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ah, i read it as 2 inches. my bad. ok, now i get it
![]() thanks, carl. If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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Posted: August 12, 2008 8:58 am | ||||||
StevieJ
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Craig, I always liked the 'mist plume' you put in.....nice touch!!!
![]() Did this go HU yet???
That would be something.....but I would need a microscope to do the texture though..... ![]() ![]()
The one posted......about a 100 hours if everything goes right.....depends mostly on the size, texture detail, and how many times I have to re-work the surface with the soldering iron.....which is the most time-consuming part. I go through alot of soldering tips because I'm keeping it in the solder.....moving back and forth to create texture waves, ripples, striations, patterns, ect..... Steve
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Posted: August 12, 2008 11:31 am | ||||||
Kraellin
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thanks, steve
![]() no, it hasnt gone HU. not a lot of call in the texture world for already made waterfalls ![]() 100 hours? wow! i hope you're charging your clients their first born ![]() If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: August 13, 2008 9:04 am | ||||||
StevieJ
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LOL.... Yeah, I get good money for them.....
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Posted: August 13, 2008 10:51 am | ||||||
Kraellin
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good
![]() If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: August 13, 2008 11:39 am | ||||||
Kraellin
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alright, like i said, i've been reworking my falls filter. in fact, i've stripped it down and shld be getting several filters out of this. here's one example of that:
edit: bah! this stupid upload image isnt working again! ah! finally ![]() ![]() ![]() If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: August 17, 2008 1:03 pm | ||||||
Kraellin
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bump!
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: August 18, 2008 1:21 pm | ||||||
StevieJ
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Interesting......getting into some overlay effects???
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Posted: August 18, 2008 1:26 pm | ||||||
Kraellin
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umm, the whole original waterfalls is overlays. what this is, is i've stripped the whole thing down to its component parts and am doing just one part at a time to make it easier to work with. this is just a falls themselves, no water, no mist, no background, etc. just falls, but done as a separate filter. i'll be doing this to every part and then put the whole back together again.
and, whereas every part may not be a worthy submissible filter, i think this one is. so, i'll probably submit it pretty soon. If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: August 18, 2008 1:30 pm | ||||||
StevieJ
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Hmmmmm.....I was just thinking that a "Rain" filter might work well with a droplet smart filter in CS3.....
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Posted: August 18, 2008 1:47 pm | ||||||
Kraellin
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yes, i was thinking of that also. i dont really think we have a great one for that. and one reason i havent submitted this filter yet is something right along those lines. i'd like to get some droplets going in this thing; not big, giant single drops like from a water faucet, but the smaller rainish type but still somewhat defined as drops rather than streaks. so, if you've got any ideas and can keep it within the pam picture frame of mind with lots of drips, streaks and droplets coming down in a sheet of streaks like the pam picture, why, i'm all ears.
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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Posted: August 18, 2008 4:07 pm | ||||||
Kraellin
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now see, i can do one like the attached just fine and i can adjust it just fine for density, color and opacity, but if you look at it closely, it's too regular and too linear. no drops, just streaks. i mean, it's not real bad, but it's just missing something. i may have to spend some time googling water images again
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Craig |
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Posted: August 18, 2008 4:12 pm | ||||||
Kraellin
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Posted: August 19, 2008 1:42 pm | ||||||
Kraellin
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Posted: August 19, 2008 1:45 pm | ||||||
StevieJ
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I think you could get that even more realistic with stretched perlin and shallow/blured height on refraction.....
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Posted: August 19, 2008 10:38 pm | ||||||
Kraellin
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yeah, i've played a bit with the stretch... uhm, not happy with it yet, but good eye
![]() in the meantime, i've plugged the new Falls filter into the Waterfalls filter and got this: ![]() If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: August 19, 2008 10:51 pm | ||||||
Carl
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Your first LP sample, makes the start of an excellant worn aged weathered effect
![]() ![]() The white ripply efect you added to the Fall has really enhanced the look ![]() |
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Posted: August 20, 2008 2:24 am | ||||||
Kraellin
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LP, carl? what is LP?
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Posted: August 20, 2008 9:32 am | ||||||
StevieJ
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That looks cool!!!
![]() If you want, try swapping it out with my "RippledGlass" filter by turning it vertical for just the waterfall.....then tighten up the blur and refraction parameters for a realistic rippled/glassy/translucent waterfall type..... ![]() And hey, that filter was spawned from your "Glass Menagerie" filter.....so you would kinda still be using your own work..... ![]() ![]() Steve
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Posted: August 20, 2008 3:03 pm | ||||||
Kraellin
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thanks, carl
![]() thanks, steve ![]() i'll have to look at 'Rippled Glass', steve. and lol on the full circle with glass menagerie ![]() ok, i just looked at the guts of rippled glass and yes, we're almost exactly on the same page there. i used two perlins, you used one, i used on refraction, you used one, but the rest is very similar. i may well have to try out the refraction. i already have the perlin and blur. i wont need the hue/sat. i already have 6 or 7 color controls in there. but again, we're very similar, the biggest diff being the refraction. could well be useful. thanks ![]() oh, and if you are using PicLens on your browser (i recommend it), go to google image search and look up 'waterfalls' and then use piclens. it's quite an array and you'll also see where i'm getting my inspiration. If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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Posted: August 20, 2008 4:43 pm | ||||||
StevieJ
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Looks nice.....but it says that it's only for FireFox......will it work with IE??? Steve
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Posted: August 20, 2008 9:53 pm | ||||||
Kraellin
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no, it's not only for firefox. i'm using it in i.e. read it again
![]() you may be on the firefox page. try this one: http://www.cooliris.com/ If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: August 21, 2008 12:09 am | ||||||
Carl
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ummm Life Preserver ![]()
I use it on IE as well ![]() |
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Posted: August 21, 2008 3:14 am | ||||||
Kraellin
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duh! sorry, carl; i'm getting senile ![]() and oh, i'd never even thought of that one for a worn or aged look, but i do see what you're saying. a bit too linear and regular, but yes, that might work. always good to have another pair of eyes around ![]() If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: August 21, 2008 9:02 am | ||||||
StevieJ
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Thanks!!! I'll check it out.....looks like a neat way to view pics.....
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Posted: August 21, 2008 11:13 am | ||||||
Kraellin
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it is a neat way. saves having to load all those google pages one at a time and is a much more aesthetic means.
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: August 21, 2008 1:39 pm | ||||||
Kraellin
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ok, i'm starting to grin on this one. i took your refraction, steve, and removed my blend between the two perlins and used one perlin for height and the other for source. i'll keep that in for a few more tests and see how it holds up. what it seems to do for now is, adds some more ability to contrast and changes the pattern just a bit, and seems to change it for the better, giving a bit more 'droplet' shapes here and there. you wont see teh droplets too much in the image i'm posting, but i do see it in others.
![]() If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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Posted: August 21, 2008 2:13 pm | ||||||
Kraellin
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ok, let's see if this works. i had to cut the optimization WAY down in order to get under the 250k limit here, but it may still be ok for viewing. just bear in mind this was compressed like 80%.
![]() If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: August 22, 2008 1:59 pm | ||||||
Carl
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excellent [ and it always disappointing having to downsize and those all the subtleties ] and the pic one does have a feeling of water leaking down - how long is the full waterfall taking to render now
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Posted: August 23, 2008 1:45 am | ||||||
Kraellin
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thanks, carl
![]() i might do up a better version and post it on youtube or something. might be fun. the waterfalls in the full form, dont take very long to render... maybe 30 seconds per image or so. and in the just-the-falls version, it's about the same, but that one has the refraction added. actually, thinking about it, it's probably not even 30 seconds on both. prolly half that, maybe. If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: August 23, 2008 9:36 am | ||||||
StevieJ
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Yeah, that does look cool!!!
![]() Hmmmmm.....I was just thinking that online children's stories with little animations like this might have a market..... ![]() Steve
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Posted: August 24, 2008 10:03 pm | ||||||
Kraellin
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well, it looks better in the larger size, but thanks
![]() and that's an excellent idea on the children's books... online, animated children's books... boy, i know some animators that would be excellent for that. do children like porn? ![]() If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: August 25, 2008 12:01 am | ||||||
Kraellin
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Posted: August 25, 2008 12:31 am | ||||||
Kraellin
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Posted: August 25, 2008 12:32 am | ||||||
Kraellin
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Posted: August 25, 2008 12:33 am | ||||||
Kraellin
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Posted: August 25, 2008 12:39 am | ||||||
StevieJ
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Well, that was the first thing that popped into my mind when I saw your animated waterfall.....thought that it would enhance the story for young childen better than picture books.....while being much easier for parents to pick and choose different stories online.....instead of having to go out and buy books..... All I ask is for a 5% royalty for the idea.....or at least a dishonerable mention at the website..... ![]() ![]() Steve
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Posted: August 25, 2008 4:08 pm | ||||||
Kraellin
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hehehe, 5%? you bandit!
![]() seriously, though, you shld look that up and see if anyone has done it. i dont know how you'd charge for it, but it's a really good idea, especially with whole generations now growing up on the web! If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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Posted: August 25, 2008 4:18 pm | ||||||
StevieJ
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LOL.....I prefer "scurvy pirate"!!!
![]() ![]() All I've ever found are little "play pages" on the most popular children's sites.....so I think it's worth exploring.....if children and their parents like it, then it would be big $,$$$,$$$.$$ money from a world-wide market..... ![]() Steve
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Posted: August 26, 2008 2:43 pm | ||||||
Kraellin
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i tend to agree, but how would you do it? how would you charge for viewing an online thing like that? or, would you charge for a download?
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: August 26, 2008 3:32 pm | ||||||
StevieJ
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Well, I wouldn't allow customers to download them.....I would do either an on-site "pay-per-view" charge.....or maybe a one-time membership fee to view any of them during a fixed period of time.....
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Posted: August 27, 2008 11:10 am | ||||||
Kraellin
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ah, like a one year subscription. ok. that shld work.
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: August 27, 2008 11:11 am | ||||||
StevieJ
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I think a minimal pay-per-view charge (maybe something like $0.25 per view) would work well too.....you know how kids are.....they want to see the same one over and over again.....so it would add up pretty quickly, eh???
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Posted: August 27, 2008 11:16 am | ||||||
Kraellin
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yes, the trouble is web currency, i would think. mothers are not likely to give their kids pay pal accounts. it works fine if mom or pop is viewing with the child, but that's going to be more limited. we need something better than pay pal.
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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