The Monster

Ok then - thanks ...... Carl

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Almost missed this..... Excellent!!! I'm going to check it out right now.....

PS..... just thought of another method..... You may be already aware of this.....but I was thinking that a mod threshold inverse of CF's extraction in "NeonNights" might work here as an additional method.....

high pass wouldnt work very well. and, i'm already using a threshold on each leg.

the problem isnt with the filter, it's with the pictures. you get a hue that is close to what you want somewhere else, so you narrow the range of the selection to get rid of the one you dont want, but that then drops out hues of what you do want. and the same is true if you do it by lightness or saturation. so, the filter works fine, as is. in fact, it's really quite efficient and compact. i could really do it almost entirely with just the one leg, the hue leg. it's the geography that's the problem.

now, so saying, it might be possible to make a mask based on the hue/lightness/saturation that you want and use that to mask out everything else, but that still raises a bit of a problem. as you increase or decrease the mask, you also are changing the extraction.

there was also some discussion a while back on putting in some sort of positional masking capability in FF. but, that would take some work on FF's part and probably not a very high priority since this is something that other editors do fairly standardly.

so, the best solution may be a pre-treatment of one's image before bringing it into FF. but, i'll think on it some more....later

steve,

if you look at it, there are two ways to do what you're suggesting about switching. just turn each of the selector - hue, selector - lightness and selector - saturation all the way to the left and it will effectively turn them off.

or, you can use the 3 blends near the bottom to turn any of the 3 methods off. i even had a third way to turn them off originally, but eliminated it due to redundancy.

and another.

this is very unrefined yet and the original image i'm using here works much better than some other images.

thanks, steve

yes, you've still got me curious with the universal filter idea. soooo, i went ahead and tried some stuff out. this is 'Fire Cellulous' by Rossimo mixed with my experimental uni filter.

but again, just what do you think shld be included in a universal filter? right now i'm just doing bare bones to see how it works, but there's all sorts of extras that could be plugged into this.

now steve, i'm gonna guess that this next one is going to be more what you were after when you said for game apps

that one is 'exposed flesh' by joe brandibash. and yes, i took that one back to psp and masked out the eyes, lips, hair, and background. i'll have to work on more refinement to do all that within the filter itself.

looks like something out of Doom3, doesnt it

i'm just going through various organic filters and seeing what all comes up.

thanks, steve they're quite fun to do.

i have noticed one thing with these, whereas you could take any of the filters and create this effect in ps or psp, FF seems to do some mapping on its own here. or maybe it's my filter that's doing it, since there is a threshold in there and that may be mapping things a bit based on lights and darks. but, just looking at the results here, i dont think i'd get quite the same thing just doing an overlay in psp without using FF.

thanks

it's the getting it 'perfectly applied' that i needed psp for. the original had the effect over the eyes, lips, earrings and so on. but it was a fairly easy fix. overlayed layers, erase the bits you dont want and done.

and that may be what has to be done on all images like this. i was hoping i could perfect the color range extraction filter to do this, but it's really just asking too much of FF in its current state.

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I was thinking that maybe another way to approach it would be to inverse a selection of the things that you do not want to change.....

yep, i was thinking about that just recently. one set for adding and one set for subtracting. i could try it on the simple form.

and no, i dont mind. we have an 'editor's best of result gallery' ?

ok.

well, thank you. i'm honored.

LOL

She's scary.

I wanted to take a look and see how this was progressing.

Nice!!

Persidio

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Kraellin wrote: it seems that alien skins are somewhat popular

+2........ LOL....

and another on the woman. no editing in psp this time.

this is probably confusing some folks. this is not the uni-filter. i'm actually back to the offspring of 'the monster' here.

thanks, persidio

this thread has become a thread about 3 different filters, i'm afraid, the monster, the little monster and steve's idea for a uni-filter. so, in the spirit of cleaning up loose ends, i'm back to the lil' monster.

when i work with a big multi-filter, ideas pour at me faster than i can write them down. i had a really great idea yesterday and 5 seconds later i couldnt remember what it was. still trying to remember. i KNOW it was a great idea. oh well.

and yes, i'm a big fan of walking away and taking a break. i also do photo restorations and you can just get too close to a piece and ruin it. gotta know when to set the mouse down and go for a walk. but, in working in FF, i find that i'll be working on one thing and 6 other ideas will pop into my head and when it's a good idea, i need to get something down, so i'll start a new filter before i forget the idea and then feel obligated to do something with it and 3 months later i'll realize i didnt finish the original

it gets really hunorous sometimes when i'm working on a filter and see an effect i like in the previews and dont want to lose it, so i'll make a copy of the whole chain of components that got that effect and just leave it in the filter. it'll have nothing to do with that filter i'm working on. so, i've got filters that are loaded with side ideas and when i go back to working on that filter, i have to find the original within all the mess and mass of idea component chains lying around

this program is the most creative program i have ever used, bar none and i've been playing with computers since about 1971 or 2. it's not that it's necessarily more powerful than some, but it's ease of use facilitates creativity and not coding and other complexities and barriers. and that's a VERY powerful combination.

thanks

we could add that to the tips and tricks thread

well, it's there somewhere...waaaay back in the threads

the lil' monster is growing up. working on it this morning... beware the coming BEAST!

no, that's the uni-filter

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StevieJ wrote: Actually, the BEAST could come in over 2000 forms, eh? LOL....

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Kraellin wrote: no, that's the uni-filter

Oh, I thought that the uni-filter was part of the Beast....must be that the Beast was plugged into the uni-filter, eh?