just some odd images here and there

#6 rock.

and yes, these are all from the same filter, so again, if it's too loose, let me know.

#8 rock

just hit the randomize again and i'm now convinced it's still too loose. oh well, back to the drawing board

Yeah, mapped nicely to the relief.....now my only suggestion would be to put it on "usable" forms like tiles (haven't seen one like this yet), keyed cornice, columns, etc. You could create simple columns by modifying ThreeDee's "Lathe" filter by taking out the perlin and substituting curve work to create whatever shape you want, eh???

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Kraellin wrote: i've gone from 15 controls to 9

This is not like you at all..... LOL....

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Kraellin wrote: steve, i'll send you the filter that made those

Yeah, send it over via email and I'll take a whack at it. I've already done the modifications to ThreeDee's "Lathe" filter.....

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Kraellin wrote: yes, that was a tease

I would expect nothing less.....

Ah, the new kinder gentler Craig "the teaser....glory stealer!!!" Kreallin.....

Well, excuse me!!! LOL....

I did those on purpose....."waynes" was a "Wayne's World" reference.....and I just wanted to piss you off by mispelling your name..... J/K.....

ok, there's a lot of things i've changed and that i could still change in this filter, but i dont really know that anyone wants those changes. so, how about this one, where i've added steps/gradations into the rock? i can add quite a few and smooth them down or not also.

would anyone care for color control of the rock? i've got a color control for the veins, but not the rock, but it's very easy to add. so, do we want basic here or more complex?

one more here. same filter, diff preset.

lol. no, not yet. after i submit i'll send you the ones you wanted if they arent in the submitted one.

and, just because i've been paying attention to what you said, and because you've been paying attention to what i've been doing...

voila!

hehe, this happens every time. i set out to make something simple like a bit of rock and i end up making lawn ornaments out of concrete i'm about 16 versions beyond what i originally posted up here. lol. might be time to go back to simple

you might have had something to do with it

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Kraellin wrote: is this more what you had in mind, steve?

Maybe with the reflection, but not the flatness.....

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Kraellin wrote: this isnt the way i'm going with the original stone. i want a more flat, non-reflective finish like the one just above this one.

Oh, then scrap my suggestions with 3D's "Lathe" and reflections then.....I was thinking about marble columns, ballistrades, etc.....similar to what Scary just did with her "wood lathe"....

Oh, BTW.....I would never undercut, undermine, or try to take any glory *cough* away from you if you sent me a filter. I would put my "take" on it and just send it back to you. What??? You don't trust me??? ..... LOL....

ok, what about something like this one? would you rather have it smooth or with the irregularities like this one has?

ok, i'll stick to the original idea.

This was created with TS (not by me, but I've started learning it). I think it would look much better with your marble on it.....

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Kraellin wrote: i dont know; that's pretty good looking marble.

I think yours looks much better with the dark veins....

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Kraellin wrote: keep me informed on true space. that could turn out to be fun

Well, alot of people in their forum think that's it's not going to remain a free program.....part of the reason why I'm saying "grab it!!!". IMO, it should be a pay program that costs at least as much as FF or more.....it's that good. I also read that XBox and some others are going to form some kind of association with it. Since being bought recently and made free, they are "fast-tracking" it with improvements and enhancements.....interesting to read in the forum where they plan to go with it.....

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Kraellin wrote: i dont think i'm going to call mine marble. some of it does look like marble, some not so much. so, i'm probably going to go with 'rock face' or something like that.

It all looks like marble to me.....but that will make it easier to just change the author name over to "StevieJ" and re-submit it as marble with no mod work..... LOL....

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Kraellin wrote: fred has indicated that we've been giving away the milk for free and he's right.

Well, all those filters are what's selling the program......especially to users who aren't doing any editing or authoring......

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Kraellin wrote: he's also indicated that there's a decent demand out there for what we do and others, the texture sellers, seem to think so

That's true.....and why I never submitted any texture filters.....I wanted to help FF, but not the texture resellers......

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Kraellin wrote: quit giving it all away for free and set up our own site. then, go invite in the professionals that need textures. all you'd really need is a site and someone that knows how to do web page stuff, paypal, e-stores and so on. from there, you simply invite other filter makers to join up. you'd have to track all this stuff, but fred has also indicated that he has software for this that he's willing to share. so, there ya go, your own texture/filter e-store.

That's exactly what I've "screaming" at FF about.....to take advantage of something like this towards creating further author incentives here.....

The one problem that I see with it is that someone could buy three good filters at a much cheaper price than buying FF.....then submit them to FF in an attmept to get 3 reward points for a copy of FF.....

I think the "private custom filter services" would work.....which Fred is currently taking advantage of with authors here. I think it's smarter to do it that way because you can have unique things created without sharing the "origins" with your competition.....

I'm not holding my breath with FF......but I do understand why.....just a small group doing it.....

I'll check that bad boy out......thanks for putting it up!!!

I just took a peek.....you stripped that bad boy down to it's simplest form, eh??? Not giving away your "secret recipees"??? LOL.....

The only thing that I would suggest is maybe doing it without using the alpha foreground on the perlin.....it creates depleted areas.....which can be remedied by using various light grey-tone colors......

here's one i did where i added back the color background on the perlin. it really doesnt make much difference having it or not. when i take the color control back out and set the perlin background back to blank, it pretty much looks like the same effect.

anyways, i liked this image. sort of reminded me of chalk faces or fossilized bone or something.

It does look like it's heading for a bone texture.....

Maybe adding porousness with a smaller-scale mod of Dilla's "Swiss Cheese" filter will do the trick???