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				Indigo Ray
								
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| Posted: August 9, 2009 8:51 pm | ||||||
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				Indigo Ray
								
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			More importantly, I have updates to two submitted filters, one of them my own, the other not.
 
			This is an update to my 3d landscape filter (which I might actually submit!). Previously, I had improved the clouds by adding an additional darker shade in the dense centers of the clouds. Now, I have changed the clouds completely. They now have 3 colors (two have controls, the middle one a blend of the two), and different controls (fuzziness and cloud cover). Since this allows for more stormy skies, I thought it would be nice to add some rain, courtesy of Lucato from Landscape LR.  				 | 
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| Posted: August 9, 2009 9:06 pm | ||||||
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				Indigo Ray
								
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| Posted: August 9, 2009 9:14 pm | ||||||
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				Indigo Ray
								
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			Maybe submitting an update for the landscape won't get my filter count off of 69  
			Take ThreeDee's Metaballs (no not meatballs  				 | 
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| Posted: August 9, 2009 9:24 pm | ||||||
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				Kraellin
								
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			i like that landscape and the foam one is cool too. not sure about the metaballs one, but looks cool  
			If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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| Posted: August 9, 2009 10:01 pm | ||||||
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				Carl
								
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 like that ......... are you able to put in a second foam line as if it was the surf wave  | 
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| Posted: August 11, 2009 2:43 am | ||||||
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				Indigo Ray
								
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| Posted: August 11, 2009 7:20 pm | ||||||
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				Indigo Ray
								
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| Posted: August 11, 2009 7:24 pm | ||||||
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				Betis
								
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			Looks a little grainy to me. But other than that it's good. 
			Roses are #FF0000
 				Violets are #0000FF All my base are belong to you.  | 
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| Posted: August 11, 2009 8:09 pm | ||||||
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				Skybase
								
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			They look like the carpet from my highschool  
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| Posted: August 12, 2009 12:01 am | ||||||
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				Carl
								
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 with all the carpet filter it's wonder no one thought to do a loop pile before, so good idea, I kind of agree with Betis about the graininess, apart from that looking good  | 
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| Posted: August 12, 2009 6:09 am | ||||||
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				Indigo Ray
								
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| Posted: August 13, 2009 6:58 pm | ||||||
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				Indigo Ray
								
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| Posted: August 13, 2009 7:27 pm | ||||||
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| Posted: August 13, 2009 7:29 pm | ||||||
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				Indigo Ray
								
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| Posted: August 13, 2009 7:50 pm | ||||||
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				Betis
								
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			I don't know about those tight stretched waves, those aren't realistic. I would also suggest turning up some details. 
			Roses are #FF0000
 				Violets are #0000FF All my base are belong to you.  | 
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| Posted: August 13, 2009 8:10 pm | ||||||
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				Carl
								
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			The carpet looks better, more fibrous which is good  
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| Posted: August 14, 2009 5:31 am | ||||||
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				Betis
								
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			On the contrary, I don't think the carpet looks better. The noise is good, but you lost great detail with the blur. Albeit the speed-up, which is great, I think it should be placed further back in the filter tree, and get some of the actual carpet back. 
			Roses are #FF0000
 				Violets are #0000FF All my base are belong to you.  | 
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| Posted: August 14, 2009 12:27 pm | ||||||
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				Kraellin
								
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			yes, the carpet looks better. nice job. i see an EP coming on that one.
 
			and the caustics are looking good, albeit a little colorless, but ok. the third one i have a bit of trouble with the fact that there are two kinds of ripples/waves going on there. the white ripples dont see to work right with the others for some reason, though, it's still pretty convincing. also, a question on the caustic ones, is it possible to do the water effect without the background effect? i mean, could we import our own background for these and would they work the same way? If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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| Posted: August 14, 2009 1:27 pm | ||||||
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				Indigo Ray
								
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			Thanks all for the input.  
			
 I happen to like them both. The first has more detail, but the second looks more soft, which is good for carpets. I tried moving the blur back, but no matter where else I put it, the results weren't that great. The blur amount can be adjusted, but it seems that there is no true middle ground between AA and blur. 
 I already have examples of that, with the life saver and as mods of other filters. Because I have several versions of water filters, I might eventually submit one. I'm not sure if I want to "give up" the carpet just yet. How about this oily one: Larger "small" waves, less frequent "thin" waves, and subtle spectra.  				 | 
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| Posted: August 15, 2009 9:15 pm | ||||||
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				Betis
								
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			That looks much better, but try less stretching on any noise. 
			Roses are #FF0000
 				Violets are #0000FF All my base are belong to you.  | 
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| Posted: August 15, 2009 9:30 pm | ||||||
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				Kraellin
								
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			oily water... hmmm, now that's a challenge. i like how you've got the red/green/blue oily film on this. interesting idea, using your caustics for this. i may have to study this stuff yet  
			If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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| Posted: August 16, 2009 9:40 am | ||||||
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				Indigo Ray
								
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| Posted: August 17, 2009 9:32 pm | ||||||
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				Indigo Ray
								
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| Posted: August 17, 2009 9:36 pm | ||||||
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				Kraellin
								
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			be sure to check out northernshadow's watercolor filter, as well. 
			If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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| Posted: August 17, 2009 10:51 pm | ||||||
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				Carl
								
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			I like it, the only thing on the town one is the orange edge on the roofs is a little to harsh, a better build up blend over the entire roofs would give it a more natural look   
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| Posted: August 18, 2009 2:00 am | ||||||
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				Indigo Ray
								
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 I've already downloaded it and love it. 
 Yeah, the one problem with my filter right now is the lack of color. I tried boosting the saturation at the end to make the sky bluer (w/o changing the paper color), but that ended up making the roofs unproportionally oversaturated. I'll see what I can do. Now check this one out: 3D landscape meets water caustics! Underwaterscapes!  				 | 
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| Posted: August 18, 2009 10:04 pm | ||||||
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				Kraellin
								
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			very freakin cool on the underwater one! 
			If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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| Posted: August 18, 2009 11:56 pm | ||||||
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				Carl
								
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			wow the sea bed works beautifully, the water surface not so convincing, improve that and you'd have another ep  
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| Posted: August 19, 2009 2:35 am | ||||||
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				Indigo Ray
								
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| Posted: August 21, 2009 9:56 pm | ||||||
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| Posted: August 21, 2009 10:00 pm | ||||||
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				Kraellin
								
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			yes, i'd say it's promising. 'chalk' and 'charcoal' have been attempted several times in filters (including my own) and i havent seen one yet that truly does them justice (including my own  
			If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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| Posted: August 22, 2009 8:22 am | ||||||
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				Indigo Ray
								
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| Posted: August 22, 2009 8:45 pm | ||||||
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				Indigo Ray
								
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| Posted: August 22, 2009 8:59 pm | ||||||
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				Kraellin
								
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			nice, indigo. 
 
			i did a search on google images for 'charcoal painting'. i was a bit surprised by what i found; one, that there are so many, and two, that there are so many different types. i also found that you have to be careful in studying charcoal images because there are a lot of digital artists doing 'charcoal' in photoshop or paint shop pro and such, so if you want to see real charcoals you have to be a bit careful. anyways, i like both your methods. and, i'd love to see a bit of the sketch lines in some of these, not that that's necessarily required for 'charcoal', but it might help sell it in some cases. If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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| Posted: August 23, 2009 11:22 am | ||||||
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				Betis
								
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			Yes, they are nice.   
			Could I get the original picture of that eye so I can study it in hopes of improving my EyeCraft filter? Roses are #FF0000
 				Violets are #0000FF All my base are belong to you.  | 
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| Posted: August 23, 2009 12:30 pm | ||||||
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				Carl
								
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			as a charcoal lover my two cents worth would be to combine the 2 approaches, so lighter toned areas are soft, while darker accentuations are more grainy  
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| Posted: August 24, 2009 3:44 am | ||||||
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				Indigo Ray
								
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| Posted: August 26, 2009 7:12 pm | ||||||
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| Posted: August 26, 2009 7:15 pm | ||||||
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| Posted: August 26, 2009 7:15 pm | ||||||
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| Posted: September 5, 2009 7:56 pm | ||||||
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				Indigo Ray
								
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| Posted: September 5, 2009 7:59 pm | ||||||
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				Indigo Ray
								
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			Hey FF, what's going on?				 
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| Posted: September 5, 2009 8:00 pm | ||||||
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				Crapadilla
								
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			Very nice carpet you got there, Indigo!   
			--- Crapadilla says: "Damn you, stupid redundant feature requests!" ;) 				 | 
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| Posted: September 6, 2009 2:52 am | ||||||
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			Good start, Indigo. You can also learn this experience if plan to continue this filter: Comments on Filters > Carpet v2 by G.A.G. Althrough G.A.G.'s version doesn't look very nice at present moment, I think that he started in correct way.				 
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| Posted: September 6, 2009 9:35 am | ||||||
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