just some odd images here and there

ok, since you guys liked the curious paint one, here's the latest version of the mod.

thanks, steve

i do have a slider currently for reducing the white or adding more, but not one to completely remove it. the idea of this filter is somewhat based on the 'impressionist' plugin, which often has quite a bit of white brush marks like this. so, i'll probably leave that part alone, at least on a first submission.

cracking is a good idea and i think someone has done that already, but again, this filter is already a bit slow and i dont want to keep adding to it. i do like that idea. i'd also like to do an impasto/heavy oil/palette knife type filter, but again, i think that's for a separate filter.

oh, and i cant do reflective since this is a simple filter rather than surface. i had toyed with the idea of going surface, but it would add significant time to the rendering and i wasnt sure how it would screw with the depth. so, i basically wanted to keep it somewhat true to the original CF&M filter and keep it fairly fast and such.

so, for this filter, i'll probably just keep tweaking around what it currently is and leave the rest for an additional filter. the size/pixel slider does some interesting things, too. and i'll most likely submit this one. it's been a while since i've submitted anything.

hehe, i am listening, steve. my only concern with the cracks and such is like i said, this filter is set to do pretty much what it's doing and not a lot more. i think the cracks would be too much... at this point. maybe a version 2

and, because you are steve, i did try it as a surface filter it altered the colors a bit, and the deep lines are a bit odd, but it's not too bad

yup, i think that one you just copied is the place to be with the filter... or darn close, anyways. the one with the heavy, thick lines could be something useful, though; just not sure what yet

thank you

the white is something i've looked at. there is a slider already to tone it down, but i'll look at it again with increasing the range of that.

in the meantime, here's another rendering with the filter from a picture i took this spring:

yeah, there is a bit too much white, but i wanted to try this on another image and this was it. so, you may be right about toning down the white more. i used a preset on this one and i'm not sure how i had that slider for white set. i'll have to check.

the one thing that is bugging me more than the white, though, is the time. with anti-aliasing on and a decent sized image, like 3000 x 2000 or so, it took quite a while to render. basically, i went and got a book and read two or three chapters waiting for this thing. lol. so, a release to the library may not be happening as soon as i wanted.

was it blown out white? no, not too much. the prevalent white in the filter is coming from a stairs curve. you can look at CF's original filter and see that in there. i've played around with it some more but not really happy with it yet. i may just leave the white thing alone. i'm wrecking things trying to get it otherwise. take a look at CF's original and see what you can do with the white.

ok, i tried replacing the curve component with a different one. this gave me a slightly darker version with less white, but if you notice in the original 'paintings', a lot of the strokes come from the white, so, in this new version, i lose quite a bit of the white, but i also lose the brush strokes . it's not bad. it sort of looks more like an old oil and this one might be good for adding those cracks you wanted, but i think to get that nice stroke effect, i'm going to have to go back to the old version again. here, i'll show you:

Hey, I would suggest taking your last one and trying different types of blends with this one.....and retain the "darkening color" aspect of what you just got on that last one.....it's perfect!!!

http://www.filterforge.com/filters/1110.html

.....or maybe something like this one......

http://www.filterforge.com/filters/4435.html

I think it's a little too much of a griddy overlay......as opposed to the paint being mapped (painted) over the canvas material.....experimenting with different blends and opacities might yeild it.....definitely on the right path.....

I was just thinking that blending it with Dilla's "Parchment" filter instead might give you some interesting results due to the discolorations.....which in certain blend modes, night act to be areas of thicker paint, eh???

You actually have so many materials to "bump" it on.....and so many different stokes/styles you could do.....this has the potential to be quite a series.....and I guarrantee that they would all go HU.....without a doubt, people would eat these up!!!

this one is with the lowered opacity on the canvas part. the last was 68 paint. this one is 80% paint.

I think I've got the secret formula for this.....

Here are my humble suggestions.....

1) Keep the stroke/colorization of what you have in your last sample.....and swap out the texture portion with suggestion #2......

2) Take the filter below.....difference it with a branch copy of itself turned at 90 degrees (experiment with the blends for the best canvas texture).....make it a an off-white color to retain continuous tone (so there will be no white/depleted areas).....and substitute it in for the canvas pattern swapped out in #1.....

http://www.filterforge.com/filters/4435.html

3) Experiment with different blend modes and opacities of the strokes/colorization with the texture for best appearance of the paint "covering" the canvas.....

I'm betting dollars-to-doughnuts that this will do the trick!!!

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Kraellin wrote: #2 sounds way too complex

Actually, it's not at all.....take a look at that filter.....

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Kraellin wrote: just two perlins, turned 90 degrees from each other and stretched way out and scaled way down, then blended into each other.

Same type of thing.....just super-simplified, eh???

Well, can I suggest adding some body and roughness with noise distortion to both the horizontal and vertical perlins.....possibly.....maybe???

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Kraellin wrote: i'll show you what i have tomorrow, maybe.

Send it over via my email.....I'll have a fiddle with it.....and send it back.....still have my address???

ok, i've toned down the canvas part. here's a look at it:

Just me, bored again ha-ha, same (flat, no lighting) filter, 2 looks of kind of a woven/ribbon design.

jffe

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Kraellin wrote: those are straight from the filter, jffe? no photoshop to them?

----Yeah, they are just from an FF made filter, rendered in stand-alone mode. I got the basic look/idea from an old Uber snippet, I sped it up by using profgrads/offsets though, and dropped the whole overly complex profile shapers and Tone Curve bit. And for 'stylistic' reasons, I went with just 2 colors, despite there being 3 seperate *strands* to the weave.

jffe

thanks, CF. i think steve wants me to put some crack in it, too. no, not that kind of crack! lol. it does sort of lend itself to that, doesnt it. i gave steve a copy. i'll see what he does with it, if he ever gets time to look at it. and if you have any suggestions for adding the cracks, i'll definitely consider it.

ah, two computers with FF. what are you doing with all that? what's the end result?

yup, it tends to be like trying to get better fuel economy out of a car by lightening the weight by removing the wheels

so, what are you making? you said textures and abstracts, but where's all that going? are you selling things or putting these into a game or what?

hey steve

ok, while waiting for steve's version, i've made a new one. this is more of a paint daub filter; in fact, that's the name. this is the surface version. there is also a simple version. i've restricted the range of several sliders to keep the effect relatively similar and there are only seven sliders. i've used the life preserver for this, having decided i'm giving away too many good photos

on another front, i've bought a new 22 inch, digital lcd monitor. this sucker pretty much rocks. i've got it calibrated and it looks great. the lcd's of today are so much better than they used to be, and besides, i couldnt even find a crt analog type. apparently none of the stores are even carrying them any more. i dont much like the aspect ratio of this new one. the whole wide screen thing doesnt do that much for me, but ok. it does at least seem to give more screen-estate (real estate on the screen). oh, and i've got it cranked up to 1680 x 1050 resolution. hehe, i'm too used to 1024x768. us old fogies are hard to make a change

Hey Craig, CF......Carl???

Craig, looks good.....you had me at "Painting Effects"..... (Jerry Megquire)..... LOL.....

Just checking in.....just wanted to let you know that I haven't forgotten about getting back to this when I have some "undistracted" time.....hopefully soon.....

It's really warm here today in Gloucester, MA.....and I'm stuck at my desk not able to enjoy any of it.....