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StevieJ
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Hey!!! Come back!!! smile:D
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Get the torches - villagers this way smile:D
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Kraellin
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she keeps mutating...

been working on refining some of the additions and on the whole extraction/masking process. the way it is currently, i still cant mask everything i'd like to the way i want to. i've also added some more effects, some mine, some others. so, the beast continues to grow and mutate smile:)

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Kraellin
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ok, i've finally wrestled the masking/extraction down to where it's about as good as i can get it for now. so, i'm in the cleaning up and detail finishing stage now.

i'm guessing the actual release of the filter is going to be a bit anti-climatic, what with all the long lead-in on this thing.

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StevieJ
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i'm guessing the actual release of the filter is going to be a bit anti-climatic, what with all the long lead-in on this thing.

Well, this string definitely holds the record for being the longest without a submitted filter smile;) It won't be anti-climactic with me smile:devil: lol....

I like both examples.....especially the second one because the effect didn't get in her hair..... smile:)
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Kraellin
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"The Beast" is now roaming the library filter queue and shld be freed on monday smile:)

as is my custom for weekend submissions, i'm including a copy here in the forums for those that have waited long enough.

many things were lost and many added. so, you may not find your favorite example picture from here in the forums now included in the filter. this was unavoidable due to the great number of revisions, re-starts and throw-it-all-away-and-never-look-at-it-agains smile:)

i re-worked the masking more times than i care to remember, but it's fairly decent now. you'll still have to take your saved images back to a paint program for post work more than likely. this was also unavoidable.

i also simplified the controls quite a bit and borrowed heavily from four other filters (all listed in the credits). you may not recognize the filters used as i clipped and cut and altered some quite a bit.

this filter is also expandable with a bit of work. instead of using a switch to control which filter effect was being used, i used a multiblend so that you can combine the various effects. more multiblends could easily be added to create more effects or you could simply unplug the existing ones and replace them with others... with some tweaks. i combined controls from one filter into other filters/effects to keep the control number down. this had to be done or the control list would just be impossible.

95% of the tests (or more) were all done using that one portrait picture of the woman i've used in other filter tests. the dark background made it easy to work with. i'd suggest using the filter on similar pictures. strong contrasts between foreground and background will make things easier.

so, i have very little idea how well this filter will work with other images. i've really not tested on other types very much at all. still, there may be some surprises on other types of images.

my thanks to all who participated in this thread. it's been fun, if nothing else smile:)

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StevieJ
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I finally have the "MONSTER"!!! smile:) .....or at least the first one smile;) smile:D LOL.....

Very first image I got from it choosing a random preset..... smile:) smile:) smile:)

Steve

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Kraellin
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cool smile:) what is it? or maybe the better question is, what is it from?
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StevieJ
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Sorry about that one.....it's from a simple digital light-trail pic that I don't want to post. It's really all your filter.....with the trails "helping" to create the separated areas.....

I hear ya.....from now on I'll only post works from originals that I have no problem posting.....

I read your other post about usage when modifying someone elses filter.....and I'm assuming it goes with the continuation of further "Monster" projects smile:devil:

I think I would like it if you could do a mod and give usage back to the original author for their work.....
Steve

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Kraellin
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ah, ok. i think i understand the idea of a light trail. no problem on the original; i just couldnt figure out what it was from. still looks cool smile:)

yes, i might do some more versions.

not quite sure what you mean about 'give usage back to the original author for their work'. i gave credit in the description for all filters used. is that what you mean or something else? oh, i think i understand what you mean. you're talking about when you mod someone else's filter and then use the mod instead of their filter and then them getting credit for usage? yeah, i've still gotten no reply from FF about that one. i certainly dont need the reward/credit and i'd sure like to see that they get it. maybe a half point or something could be given to the original author? i dont know.
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StevieJ
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Oh, I just thought if you felt that it was too close to others work that you could "choose" to give usage back to the original author in addition to giving credit in the description.....kinda as a way to alleviate any possible enfringement "guilt"..... smile:)
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i certainly dont need the reward/credit and i'd sure like to see that they get it. maybe a half point or something could be given to the original author?

That's what I thought you meant.....your "half point" idea sounds like a really good one for this..... smile:)
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Kraellin
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yeah, maybe once we get component groups and tags, something like can be done on an automatic basis.
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Kraellin
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and the monster grows and goes anywhere smile:evil: smile:!: smile:D

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Carl
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I'm waiting to down load from library as I prefer it to be in catergory rather than in my filters + I like building the anticipation up [ 3 months and 6 pages wasn't long enough LOL smile:D ] Steve your pic sample looks great, it intrigues, along with Kraellins pic posts, to the possibilities of the filter - the very first pic you posted Kraellin is that one still possible as I realize you've worked hard on refining filter and the parameters have obviously needed to change - if you've already said something in the thread, as my memory has never been good [ I have a feeling that you might have ] just ignore question. Looking forward to Monday to have a play with your monster smile8) smile:)
Ahh you just posted while I was typing new looks great smile8)
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Kraellin
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thanks, carl smile:)

i honestly cant tell you if any of the originals are still there or not. things got so re-worked that i'm really not sure. the roots of all of them shld be there, but may not show exactly as they were. well, with one exception. the original 'the monster' pic is gone completely, the glass-like one that covered most of her face. i had to take that one out completely.
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Carl
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Even better the self discovery factor will add to the fun - excellent smile8) thanks for your reply smile:)
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Kraellin
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you're welcome smile:)

just bear in mind that hype is always better than the real product smile;) (that's my disclaimer and i'm sticking to it)
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StevieJ
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Looking for it......but haven't seen the "Beast" pop up in the library yet.....
Steve

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Kraellin
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yeah, i dont see it either. i think i submitted it to the 'photo' category, but it's not up yet.
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Kraellin
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ok, here's the original snippet that came from 'the monster', which was the original reason for this whole thread. all i've added to it are controls and a levels component for height. i've submitted this to the library just now and am posting it here also.

as you'll see, this is really a pretty basic filter. like i said before, only four components (not counting the new levels component).

by itself, i dont see a lot of use for this one, but it can produce a couple of intersting presets, which may be of use to someone. there is one in there that looks a lot like muscle without the skin and a couple others that could be used artistically.

so, have at it if you like and i now feel my obligations and cryptic teases are all fullfilled smile:)

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Kraellin
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damn. spelling error smile:(
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StevieJ
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I can't download it until that spelling error is corrected!!! smile:D LOL....

You did do a good job with the "tease" smile:D smile:D smile:D LOL....

Have to run now, but I will get some serious time with it soon.....and post some test creations for it once in the library smile:)

Excellent Work!!! smile:)
Steve

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Kraellin
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it's the apostrophe in 'monster's'. it's actually right on the filter. so, must be a forum thing.

yeah, with my teasers i shld probably work for Blizzard software smile:D
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Carl
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The monster still doesn't seem to want to come out and play yet smile:cry: smile:)
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Kraellin
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odd, no new filters up today either. seems someone is on a vacation, sick or just darned busy.
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StevieJ
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Yeah, I keep checking for it and it's not there.....I've got promotionals to do smile;) smile:D LOL..... smile:)
Steve

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Kraellin
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ok, now that 'the beast' and 'the monster's monster' are out, i'm back to working on the pappa, the monster.

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Kraellin
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#2

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#3

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#4

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#5

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#6

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#7

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#8

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Carl
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It's been worth the wait on the two creatures you've already released, so excellant if there's more to come in the series smile8)
The new pics you've posted look good smile:)
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gunsan
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That first monster one you presented was fascinating. have been looking in recent filters, but the monster apparently is not ready yet, Why not trying it on an old ma instead of beautiful girls. or maybe little old ladies like me LOL
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Kraellin
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hehe.
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Why not trying it on an old ma instead of beautiful girls. or maybe little old ladies like me
ya know, i dont think there's an answer i can answer that isnt going to be trouble for me smile:D

and thanks smile:)
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StevieJ
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Well, just because you are a grandmother, doesn't mean that you are not beautiful, eh??? smile:)

Craig, cool effects.....especially #3, #4, and #5 for me!!! smile:)
Steve

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Kraellin
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thanks, steve smile:)

i'm kind of partial to 5, 6 and 8.
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StevieJ
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Okay, we agree on #5 smile;) smile:)
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Kraellin
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mwhahahaha!

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Kraellin
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and the monster continues to grow...

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gunsan
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LOL...I still like number one best!
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Kraellin
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hehe smile:) #1 is the one with the white speckles?

well, this is something i work on when i'm bored with everything else. i just keep adding new legs to the thing. so, it's sort of analagous to a genetically engineered monster smile:)
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