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StevieJ
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Wow!!! That last one really gives a "piercing" look to her.....awesome!!! smile:)
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Kraellin
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thanks, steve. yeah, the dark eyes caught me too smile:)

ya know, i could also combine this thing with my 'rubber faces' filter. that shld be good for some halloween fun smile:)
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ya know, i could also combine this thing with my 'rubber faces' filter. that shld be good for some halloween fun

LOL..... Love to see some samples of that smile:)
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Kraellin
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i dont know if i'm that brave smile;)
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StevieJ
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FF villagers chasing you with pitchforks and torches, eh??? smile;) smile:D LOL.....
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I like #2 but she scares me... LOL

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Wow this thread is up to 8 pages!!

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Kraellin
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yeah, #2... those eyes!

hey, can i milk a thread or cant i? smile:)
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StevieJ
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hey, can i milk a thread or cant i?

You are definitely the King!!! smile;) smile:D LOL....
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Kraellin
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ok, been feeding the monster some more...

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StevieJ
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Hehehe..... Yeah, it does seem like you have to keep feeding it, doesn't it??? smile:devil: LOL....
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Kraellin
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i dare not quit smile:)

well, the nature of this thing is a 'multi-filter'. and it's never been finished. my definition of multi-filter is that it's NOT a one effect type filter. it's an anything goes type filter. when i hit 'next variation' i never have any clue what might be coming up next. it's truly just a plug it in and see what comes up type.

the monster does have one rule, however. it must use an image and must be such that the image doesnt become too obscured by the effect. and that's really the only rule. the number of controls is unimportant. ease of use is unimportant, especially since i mostly just hit 'next variant' to produce the effects. number of presets is unimportant; i save tons of them. in fact, in this filter, the presets are king. that's how i find effects i've used and liked in the past, but even more so in this behemoth than in other, normal filters. like that last image i posted here. that's now a preset.

so, all of my multi-filters are somewhat this way. they are experimentation filters. and i rarely throw anything out on one of these. some effect may look horrible on a newly loaded image, but the preset may have been made for a specific image that is now long gone. but, that effect stays nonetheless.

it's actually an interesting exercise in seeing what FF can do and i'd recommend anyone doing at least one. the basics are simple. set up a switch and add more switches to that. then just fill in the sub-switch nodes with various effects. or, if you're really brave, substitute multi-blends for the switches smile:)

i've spawned off several filters from my multi's and will be doing more. in fact, i've actually started on doing a series from the monster. the first one is already almost done. i think i named it 'monster's spawn #1' or something like that smile:)
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Kraellin
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here's an image from monster spawn 1. i'll be submitting it shortly.

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when i hit 'next variation' i never have any clue what might be coming up next. it's truly just a plug it in and see what comes up type.

Yeah, that's what I've come to like about it. You were right, Photoshop can already do the selection and masking.....so why re-do it. For me and my work, I love the draw of the unexpected and unpredictable. For example, some of Carl's filters are very unpredictable.....and users seem to love that about them.....so I think that this approach would work for the "Monster" filters as well.....with all kinds of crazy selection methods.....

I was also thinking that combining filters for the "Monster" would alleviate your 'enfringement' concerns.....like using your combination of my "ElectroGlo" with your "Church" filter. Just about every one of my filters can be plugged into other filters for new viable effects.....so pillage away.....and should have 500 new filters before you know it smile:dgrin:
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Kraellin
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yup. i think that's what i like about them too, the unexpected 'wow' you get every once in a while.

and yes, the infringement thing is still a bit of an inhibition with me, despite folks like yourself and volde saying 'go for it'. it took me years to NOT shamelessly rip off other's works and it just seems like going backwards on that now to take someone else's work and use it with my own smile:)

anyways, 'monster spawn 1' is now submitted smile:)
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StevieJ
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That's cool....metallic noise speckling!!! smile:)

One more thing.....combining two effects with threshold along with the "Monster" selections would yeild all kinds of dramatic unpredictable effects.....the crazier the better.....and I for one would love it..... smile:) smile:) smile:)
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Kraellin
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ok, here's another example. i'll not start a separate thread in the gallery for this, but maybe in the comments forum.

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StevieJ
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Hehehe..... "Spawn of Monster 201x subsection 3b" smile;) smile:D LOL.....
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Kraellin
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two effects with threshold....hmmm, interesting notion. how would you do it exactly?
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Kraellin
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hehehe, yeah, could make a completely new library section.... "See: 'Monster'" smile:)
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folks like yourself and volde saying 'go for it'

EUREKA!!! There you go!!! Combining Volde's filters with mine would be perfect.....Volde does very little color and texture.....and all of mine are all about color and texture.....so they would make a perfect marriage together under the Monster's scambling selection methods!!! You wouldn't be able to tell where the filter came from at all!!! smile:) smile:) smile:)
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two effects with threshold....hmmm, interesting notion. how would you do it exactly?

Do one effect on 'high' and the other on 'low' with the straight image as the source.....or combine both before threshold as the source.....then add the Monster's selection on either end.....and you would have the "Mutha" of unpredictable filters!!! smile:)
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completely new library section.... "See: 'Monster'"

FF would have to program new software just to handle the "Monster" section of filters..... smile;) smile:D LOL....
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Do one effect on 'high' and the other on 'low' with the straight image as the source.....
hmmm, interesting idea. i might try that. the 2nd way i'm not so sure about, but maybe. the other thing about combining other's filters is that, it's really easy. so, i dont ever feel like i've authored anything, so why take credit smile:)

and yes, yours and volde's might make for really interesting effects. dilla's and uber's and volde's and yours....now there's something i'd like to see smile:) might be fun just to see what comes up smile:D
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gunsan
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What your filter made to the yellow flower seems very promising. I am eagerly waiting to tomorrow!
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StevieJ
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interesting idea. i might try that. the 2nd way i'm not so sure about, but maybe.

Yeah, several different ways to experiment with.....there's those two ways.....or blend the two effects, use as threshold source, image with effect #1 into low, image with effect #2 into high, then use Monster selection to apply threshold amount of final effect to original image.....all kinds of ways to experiment with it.....and actually sounds like alot of fun to make smile:)
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Kraellin
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well, it'll have to wait a bit, steve. i did another monster spawn and going to do some more as well. this is from spawn 2, already submitted:

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gunsan
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StevieJ
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Oh, I like that sample pic even better with the relief and clarity smile:)
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Kraellin
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thanks, gunsan smile:)

thanks, steve smile:)

having fun doing these.
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Kraellin
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here's the third in the series of monster spawns. this one uses a wave curve as the primary filtration. you'll notice that there's a similarity between these three filters. this is mostly due to the one rule i mentioned for 'the monster', to not obscure the image too much. a few go a bit futhers, but these first in the series are going to be somewhat similar.

so, this one isnt so much a noise filter as it is a curves filter. it does alter tones a bit, but mostly it adds a pattern that is variable.

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Kraellin
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and this is from the fourth in the series. i just submitted it. this one is also a curves filter and is more for altering color tones. this one also includes a relief heighten control for when you want more or less depth/roughness/texture in an image.

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Carl
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It's not often I think in reverse but I'll be curious when you release the spawn of these what the LP looks like, I particularly like the 2nd last pic but the last 1ne looks cool to smile:)
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Kraellin
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i lost you there, carl. what is LP? you mean when i release the monster itself?

and thanks smile:)
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StevieJ
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I'm liking the new direction of these towards clarity and texture.....

What two candidate filters are you going to choose for the "Combo Monster" creation???

Steve

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Kraellin
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thanks, steve.

two candidate filters? combo monster? no idea what you're talking about. smile:|
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Kraellin
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ok, here's a sample from #5. this is another noise type. the big difference here is that the noise is based on your image and you can scatter it outwards.

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Carl
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Sparkly - excellent smile:)
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gunsan
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Kraellin
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gunsan, get 5d if it's out. a bit better than 5b.
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Kraellin
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#7. and dont worry, i havent forgotten 6 smile:)

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Kraellin
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#6 and 7 are submitted. no preview pics on 6... it's just too weird smile:)
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no preview pics on 6... it's just too weird

Oooooooo....I like the sound of it already smile;) smile:D .....or you are getting REALLY good at dropping teasers..... smile:)
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lol. well, this one wasnt meant as a teaser. it just barely fits the motif of 'the monster' in that it's a bit of a stretch for my criteria there. it's just a little frame playing smile:)
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StevieJ
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How are those other ideas coming along??? The ones from the center glow on the lily samples???
Steve

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Kraellin
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that's #7 and it's submitted also.
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Kraellin
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tonight's theme is, how could a monster create something so beautiful smile:)

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Kraellin
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and #2

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