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CorvusCroax
CorvusCroax

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The standard lifesaver:
You can already see how it's different from the other cutline filter. The different colors make the lines go different directions. There is no frame effect. There is more crisp outlines.

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CorvusCroax
CorvusCroax

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My standard test skull:
(original posted earlier this thread)

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CorvusCroax
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#03


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CorvusCroax
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Can really see the nice cross hatching here. It picks out the shapes really well.

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CorvusCroax
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Here's the original, for comparison.
On the above pic, notice how the lines are going in lots of different directions, and conforming to the shape of the building or the ground.


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CorvusCroax
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#05 Another architecture example

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CorvusCroax
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and the original:

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CorvusCroax
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#06

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CorvusCroax
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#07 I'll dispense with the before and after, you get the idea.

I like all those nice turn of the century books with filled w/ etchings of animals and nature, etc.

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CorvusCroax
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#08 discovered something very interesting: if you adjust the 'pixel size' control, it can give you a much wider array of effects, including tighter and (I think) more regular lines. Not sure why.

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CorvusCroax
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Here's another filter using the same source image, more of a painterly thing using FF2 percentage.

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CorvusCroax
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#08 A little napoleon:

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CorvusCroax
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#09 aren't you a little short for a gronard?

Note all the nice tapering of the lines in the background. This was made with not a very large original. Would be nice to get rid of that spiraling in the upper right, tho.

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CorvusCroax
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Here's the original. Trivia: this guy was actually in the grand armee... he's super old and managed to live long enough for people to invent photography.

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CorvusCroax
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#10 lenin:
Again, check out all the nice tapering of the lines in the background and on his head.

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CorvusCroax
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#11 Stalin

This one is my favorite. I realized that it really helps to have nice smooth tones: either by using perfectum or smartblur. Check out how nice and crisp his jacket and background is.

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CorvusCroax
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And the original
(I have no idea why he's saying what he is saying btw. I think it's from a game or something.)

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CorvusCroax
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#12

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CorvusCroax
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#13 random guy. Filter seems to work pretty well w/ regular photographs without a great deal of contrast.

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CorvusCroax
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#14
Sorry: can't find the original. It's, you know... a bronze statue.

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CorvusCroax
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#15 Village scene:


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CorvusCroax
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#15 original

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CorvusCroax
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#15 overlay mode ... and now some experiments in combining the two...

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CorvusCroax
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#15 multiply mode - sort of comic book like

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CorvusCroax
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#15 auto levels on the color, plus a blurred version of the original set to hard light over the top of everything. Gives it a kind of bloom effect.

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Vladimir Golovin
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Corvus, some of these -- especially the last three -- are just magnificent! Have you considered submitting a similar work (based on a non-copyrighted background) to the Gallery?
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CorvusCroax
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Hi Vlad, sure, I could do that. The filter needs some work still, before I release it. (I built it in FF2 out of FF1 components....)
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Kraellin
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those first b&w's remind me of the old etching/engraving style. very nice.
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CorvusCroax
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Vladimir Golovin wrote:
Administrator Filter Forge, Inc. Posts: 2383 Filters: 49 Corvus, some of these -- especially the last three -- are just magnificent! Have you considered submitting a similar work (based on a non-copyrighted background) to the Gallery?


Ok, how about something like this: (original)

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CorvusCroax
CorvusCroax

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Cutline filter:

I added the midtone brown color, and improved the linework.

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CorvusCroax
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Then took the original (actually 2 layers of it) and set to hard light. I like how the color comes through - but not too much.

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CorvusCroax
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Here's an alternative twist, using the comic book filter to posterize the colors, and then using a line heavy - hatch light version of the cutline filter. It has a real crispness to it.

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CFandM
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Some great stuff Corvus.. smile:)
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Kraellin
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yup, lookin good.

you might want to find the engraving filter i know exists...somewhere. not sure if that was dilla's, uber's, CF's or whose, but i do recall seeing one like that. it might give you some extra tips and tricks along the lines you're going.

you going to publish this one?
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CFandM
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you might want to find the engraving filter i know exists...somewhere. not sure if that was dilla's, uber's, CF's or whose, but i do recall seeing one like that. it might give you some extra tips and tricks along the lines you're going.


There are several of these types in the library...Heres the "Screen Works" smile:)
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Indigo Ray
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Never saw that one, CF.

And Corvus, lots of overwhelming examples there, but they're all good. That "painterly one at the top of the page before is cool, too. Pastel/charcoal maybe?
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CorvusCroax
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This is the closest filter, and I used parts of it as a base:
http://www.filterforge.com/filters/5804.html

It's pretty different, though: this just lays a grid over and doesn't react to the apparent shape. Mine wraps around the shapes, which is what makes it look more like an etching / cutline. If you compare this image to the images above you can see how the lines 'wrap' around objects more correctly. Look at the skull or Lenins head, for example.

(Sorry if I sound defensive ... it's actually kind of hard!)

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That "painterly one at the top of the page before is cool, too. Pastel/charcoal maybe?


Thanks: there are a lot of these, too. What's different on that one is I'm finding the areas of detail (using a sort of high pass based on percentage rather than blur), and then stacking them up.
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CorvusCroax
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For comparison, here's what the original cutline filter looks like on the same cathedral image above:

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CorvusCroax
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Here's a fun thing which is a mod of one of Uber's filter dump, slightly tweaked. This is the 'uber ooze', but I'm using high pass to do the distortion only at the edges / areas of high detail. Makes it look like brushstrokes or something.

Strangely, it actually will tile seamlessly.

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CorvusCroax
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here's the FFXML

uber brushstrokes.ffxml
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Kraellin
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hi corvus,

sorry if i(we)hinted or intimated that your filter was a copy-cat. that was NOT my intention! my intention was that, here's a guy (you) working on a filter that had some similarity to one i remembered from before and that perhaps, if he looked at that earlier one, he might find something of use there. it's like when someone is working on something and others start going 'oh, he's working on that; let's throw him all the data we have on it so he can make use of any of it he wants since he's the guy now working on it.' so, no slur, invalidation, or trolling here. just wanted you to have all the data on the subject that existed. toss it all, if you like smile:)

oh, and nice brushstrokes. carl's going to find that one interesting (as did i) smile:)
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CorvusCroax
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Hi Kraelin: thanks - no worries smile:beer:

(sometimes it's hard to read the tone of forums / emails)
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Kraellin
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good good smile:)
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CFandM
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Indigo Ray wrote:
Never saw that one, CF.

Now you did.. smile:D smile:)
Since we have so many filters to use already theres a lot of filters that get lost in the shuffle or just simply overlooked until one actually needs one.... smile:)

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CorvusCroax wrote:
It's pretty different, though: this just lays a grid over and doesn't react to the apparent shape. Mine wraps around the shapes, which is what makes it look more like an etching / cutline. If you compare this image to the images above you can see how the lines 'wrap' around objects more correctly. Look at the skull or Lenins head, for example.

(Sorry if I sound defensive ... it's actually kind of hard!)


No worries there Corvus...Theres always different ways of doing something..Especially in FF smile;) smile:)
Can never have enough filters with different methods...Are you doing this is v1 or v2?smile:)

I like the wrapping effect on those.. smile:pimp:

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sometimes it's hard to read the tone of forums / emails)


Imagine if we never had smiles it would be harder to get the meaning/tone of a post smile:D smile:)
But yep sometimes it is at that...I know that when I post if it was a mad sort of tone I wanted to convey I would post in all caps or put lots of flaming heads in my posts....Which is not often..At FF anyway.. smile:) smile:D
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CorvusCroax
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Have been playing around w/ a Halftone + Comic book style filter. Is based on CMYK by Sjeiti, but simplifies some things, and adds some others. Check it out.



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