Procedural experiments

emme - thank you very much for your generosity and AMAZING skills with Filter Forge! Sharing filters/experiments/snippets may not seem like much to YOU, but to those of us who would never in a million years be able to come up with such beauty, THANK YOU! Your stuff here is GROUNDBREAKING! Some of the effects you are generating, I am sure, far exceed any of the expectations of the Filter Forge development team!

Any and all the crumbs you throw us, no matter how insignificant you may think they are, for the rest us are like finding a winning lottery ticket on the ground.

I don't know if there is some way to encourage you to keep creating/keep sharing, but I, for one, am willing to put my money where my mouth is - is there some way to donate money to you? Even if it just buys you coffee, video card upgrade, whatever, I'd sure be willing to buy in at a premium level for access to some more of your stuff! Even if you think it is 'rough' or whatever, the results are STUNNING! Slow? Don't care! I would be willing to PAY YOU to be a beta tester for you! (I'm very, VERY serious!)

For example, my faves:

celestial 02, 05, 07, 08 (TAKE MY MONEY!!!)
terrain dof 01 and 02 - more cool than you can possibly know! (TAKE MORE OF MY MONEY!)

anamorphic_01.jpg & hexagon_01.jpg !!!!!
- Is Filter Forge generating those colored lines, or just the blur effect on them?

substance 01, 02,
biosphere 01, 02, 03
cloudy 01

reflective 01, 02, 04, 07(!!!!)
rainstreet 01, 03
glitcher 01, 04, 05 (!!!)
warpfield 01, 07
elemental 05
framework 01, 03, 06, 09
transformation 01
monolith 01
collective 04, 05

flakes 02, 08, 12, 13
liquid 01 and 07
rock 03
blockcity 02

vectorfield 01
multiverse 05
fractal 01
control panel 03 and 05
bad sector 04
hullmaster 03
mazetile 02
outer regions 01
deep scan 04

subsurface 05

Thanks, emme - you're the best!

These are absolutely fantastic!

In regards to market place, you have Gumroad! I’ve put HDRIs there personally and it’s a pretty nice place to open a micro store. I’d also be glad to dump some cash for filters like these, you really spent some time and they deserve something in return.

transformation 02

that really looks stunning. is it made with loops?

"GMM or other mods - would it be ok for me to promote such a store here? "

As for what I know, selling the results of the filters is fine.

Selling the filters is another matter.
If everybody start selling the filters, the problems are two :

1. Nobody will post filters in the library anymore.
If they can get some money for the filters, why posting them for free?

2. Filter Forge company should get a fee on them.

One of the selling points of FF is that there is plenty of filters we can download without paying even one cent more than what is required for the program.
The sales of the program would surely drop down if we had to pay for downloading the filters.

I have over 300 filters in the library. I could get a good money even if the price for every download was only 1 cent. But, looking from the side of the people who buy the program, I don't think it is fair to pay for the program and then to pay again for the filters.

Yes, it may be.
Some professional people would become interested to make good filters if they got some money.
I even think that many people already have very beautiful filters in their FF, but they don't share them.

It is anyway a complex matter.

For example, now, if we post a filter, anybody can use it as a base to make a slightly different filter and post it in the library.
All this works because the filters are free.

But guess what would happen if instead we put on sale a filter and somebody else does few changes and re-posts it free.
Copyright and sales problems would came up. Maybe you and I would not care of it.
But many other people become very unreasonable when talking of money and they would start complaining of it.

In short time we would probably reach the point that the filters we buy cannot be opened with the editor, otherwise anybody can copy them.
This would kill FF original idea of being a program for creating and sharing filters.

Anyway, it is not up to me deciding.
And my opinion can be completely wrong.

Yes, those are good points, Ramlyn. We would have to rely on good will, or have a separate commercial filter format. Perhaps that wouldn't work too well.

It's just a weird situation where we can sell the generated images, but the only way to share filters is to give them away for free - even though I feel the filters are way more valuable.

I love all these images created here but why can't the actual filters be put up?

Another stereo image.

is this made with bomber and loop? you can't tell me it didn't took days to render

Very interesting and artistic!

Happy New Year everyone! I know it's a bit late - the forums were down for a while.

edit: ok, seems like image uploading still isn't working

yay, uploads are working now

fireworks

billboard 02

Thanks Yuya!

billboard 03

dope, as always!

Thanks!

particles 01

Work in progress. Many loops. Rendering time 15-20min + some post processing. All FF.

megacity 01

experiment 02

Thanks. Some thoughts,

I don't want to discourage anyone from releasing filters. The filter library is a great resource, especially for new users. It's good to see new filters still popping up - keeps the thing alive.

I wouldn't worry too much about EPs and such. Perhaps EPs are generally given to visually flashy filters that are more marketable. This doesn't mean other styles of filters aren't just as valuable to the users. Your filters have tens of thousands of downloads so they are definitely appreciated by the people.

If you want to try a new approach, you can focus on creating interesting images and to not worry about releasing filters. For me, this gives more creative freedom. You can always release the filter afterwards if you so decide.

I'm still using FF7 so I can't comment on the state of FF8, but that doesn't sound great - hopefully they can get it fixed.

I do agree the energy put into FF development and support seems to have been decreasing over the years. I hope this means more work is being put into their next project - but obviously I have no idea.

@rachelduim : For what it is worth, *I* appreciate your work! :o)