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John Michaud
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Yeah! Insert fire related cliches here!

So heres my first attempt at a flame generator, im trying a different approach to generating a filter here, since before i was relying heavily on the 3D feel and lighting that the surface filter provides.

Mainly curves, blends, alphas, distortion, and a lonely perlin noise for the smoke.
I plan to tweak this quite a bit, but heres a WIP.

credit to uberzev and voldemort for the idea smile:)



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voldemort
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I definatly like the direction yours is goint alot better then mine so far- though just as a suggestion you might take a nother noise and soften and break up that smoke alittle more it looks way to heavy in my opinion You might also add som thin whisps with a perlinn noise set to electrick for those bright whips -for a second smoke choice --Ive been trying to blend a perlin noise -set ghost with a perlin noise -set electric for that smoke like you see off the end of a ciggarete- but for billowing smoke I think you need to vary your oppacity a little more. Those Flames look great though I love the blend you did with them
lets all whine for a wine port
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John Michaud
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Yeah the smoke was added last minute before i was too tired to do anymore work on it. Im definitely going to tighten up the smoke effect. The fire could use some tuning too. i need to narrow down whats going to control the intensity and height of the flames, because as it stands there are multiple ways to effect it.

Thanks for the feedback smile:)
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Richard Bartlett
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Just tinkering around a bit and hot damn!

BTW, I reserve the name Burninator. smile:D

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voldemort
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Friggin --political correct term there ---friggin sweet You guys definatly pegged the flames way better then I did
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CFandM
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Cool, I mean hot..Nice work..By the way I don't think that Life preserver would work to good on the water when its on fire... smile:D
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Richard Bartlett
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Nonsense. It's still a perfectly suitable life preserver. It just would become less and less effective the longer you held on to it. smile;)
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John Michaud
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so now you just need a filter that generates peasants... and countryside smile:dgrin:

nice work, btw

Are you having the same offset issue im having? because I see the fire wrapping around the top. Or are you even using offset? Do tell!
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Richard Bartlett
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Yeah, I'm using offset and yes it is wrapping around. But that won't be an issue by the time I submit.
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Richard Bartlett
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Okay, I've submitted a fairly polished version.

I've added a time slider so you can make animated sequences albeit it would take quite some time since you'd have to export each frame manually.

Such a travesty what happened to poor Engram's cottage...

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Crapadilla
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Alright then. Count me in! smile:dgrin: smile:dgrin: smile:dgrin:

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Crapadilla
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Ah, its getting hotter!

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Kraellin
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I've added a time slider so you can make animated sequences


a time slider? i'm assuming here this is in FF and if so, i'm also assuming you're talking about a frame stepper as if time were passing, yes? no?

very cool, btw!

craig
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Richard Bartlett
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Yes, a "frame stepper". smile:)
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John Michaud
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Gah, im totally getting owned here by you two. Damn if i had some free time i could keep working on my filter. Building levels in Unreal 2 engine while simultaneously trying to learn what little i can in the Unreal 3 engine on top of all the other school projects i have is taxing smile:(

So my final entry will probably be a bit later, around Christmas.

Anyway, nice work you guys smile:D
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voldemort
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Im not so sure about the owned part they have nailed the flames and even burnt edges now preaty good But I like the fact your trying to incorporate another important aspect of fire----smoke also no entries so far have made blue or white hot flames there are still alot of elements to be explored for instance what about deliberate angular flames--embers etc keep at it Ive seen the rest of your work nothing says you cant whip out something as terific.. one thing Im trying to focus on that I havnt seen in there's is rougher flames the kind that is far more turbulent in nature while also allowing the user to choose clean flowing flames like theese- I will say that Rich's lighting is fantastic and really looks hot but I love Crapidillas burnt edges and I see your smoke looking nice the only drawback with your that I see is the highlighted area is to large and solid needs broken up more --keep that core looking hot but use a soft tone-curve to alter its coloration just slightly
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James
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wow great filters everyone smile:)
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Kraellin
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john, you might also add some more reds in there. i tried one a while back like you did and got nowhere near as good.

i think there's a lot of room for more of these too. what about doing this in perspective, like combined with the landscape filter? seeing a burning grass fire from an elevated angle would be a good one. let's see...set alpha mixed with landscape and some of john's fire or richard's edges fire... hmmmm.... and adding in a multiblend....

and btw, richard, very well done! that burning house really looks good!

i'll have to see crapadilla's set on an image, but looks good also!
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voldemort
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Btw If anyone is currious this is a great way to creat a smoke billow
Sad thing is I cant seem to get the blends the way I want them all the individual components look great but combined smile:puke:
Here is a thumbnail leading to a larger version of the smoke billow in case its down ever ill include an uploaded version to but the quality of this screenshot is poor so If the thumbailed one to imageshack is working it will give you a better look


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voldemort
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Dont know why im having such a hard time blending I normally dont there are several flame stages though you realy cant tell with theese and as you can see the puke smiley above is all to appropriate for the blending


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voldemort
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the alpha versions dont look bad though but again blend mode is killing me

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Crapadilla
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Kraellin wrote:
i'll have to see crapadilla's set on an image, but looks good also!


I am quite happy with transparencies so far, but there is still a problem with the whitepoint methinks, and the flames could use more detailed turbulence.

The filter on an image this time... smile:D

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Crapadilla
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Ok, I have submitted my version for those interested. Critique welcome... smile:D
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Kraellin
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you guys are having way too much fun smile:)

Craig
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Sjeiti
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I was throwing paint but since you guys are setting everything on fire I thought I'd make the paint splash into an explosion.

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Sjeiti
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...

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Sjeiti
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although I'm still don't know which way to go...
either this way

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Sjeiti
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or this way

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Crapadilla
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Looks a bit like volcano insides. One could imagine an erupting volcano effect with that, with cracks radiating from the image center revealing the magma.

Just mumbling... smile:D
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John Michaud
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Liquid splatter+Fire=Napalm!

Do it! smile:dgrin:
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Crapadilla
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And name it 'Agent Orange'
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CFandM
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John Michaud wrote:
Liquid splatter+Fire=Napalm!


All right I just had to try my hand at this..Kind of on the order of Sjeitis' filter.
The top veiw of an explosion..

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DStarr
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I have some images I made from my fireplace using filter forge on you tube.

here:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0OhcyKMcKKA

DStarr
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Kraellin
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very nice, dstarr. gotta love flaming porn smile:) (just kidding smile:) )
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Crapadilla
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Hey John, hey Sjeiti!

What happened to your nice challenge entries? We don't want them to catch dust now, do we? Do submit, guys... smile:devil:
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uberzev
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This worth releasing?



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Kraellin
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absolutely, uber. very lifelike.

and i can already see uses for it. add a little set alpha so that one could see through the flame and put something behind it and voila'! or, you could use a blend mode with it. that shld work also.
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!

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Torley
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With some of these fiery accomplishments, it becomes less compelling to purchase other fire-simulating texture packages on the market when Filter Forge can have it so competently licked!
I'm enjoying using Filter Forge to create http://torley.com/textures
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uberzev
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FireForgeâ„¢ smile:evil:

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uberzev
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Extra Crispy...

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Kraellin
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i'll take a bucket of regular and one of extra crispy, please.
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Crapadilla
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uberzev wrote:
FireForgeâ„¢


Sounds like an excellent name for that filter! smile:)
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Torley
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Haha FireForge has a totally rockin' name, it's so appropriate. Reminds me of Firefox too, with extra burnation for charred goodness!
I'm enjoying using Filter Forge to create http://torley.com/textures
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