WIP Just Lace

I am back playing around in FF. Here is a preview and work in progress of the lace filter I am working on. All comments are welcome
Wip 1
Rendered on a black background so you can see the lace better.

wip 3 last one for now

These are absolutely stunning

Look at those details Amazing!!

Simply Beautiful

Made a few changes what do you think craig?
New test render lace 1

hi lynn,

yes, i always open up the posted pictures to full size

yep, definitely less grain now. nice

one last thing that's been buggin me on this one. the depth of the lace itself. i'm attaching a pic to show what i mean. is this a surface filter and can you reduce the depth? if not, i doubt many will complain

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Kraellin wrote: ok, i posted just after you posted the red one and hadnt seen it yet. the depth issue doesnt show there as much. interesting.

I made some changes when I rendered the red one. I change from an blend node to an mutiblend node if that make any sence to you. also decreased the surface height. might need to play around with the lighting more.

Looks great, looking forward to this one

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Betis wrote: If you haven't forgotten how, I think the noise was very realistic, for it simulated the thread in the patterns. After you took it out It looks more like an alpha map generator and not real lace. The first 3 were amazing, but I would suggest turning down the brightness in the Lighting tab by about 33 or 50. Big grin

Thank you very much Betis. I still have the orginal filter that the first 3 came from. I made an ajustment to the lighting, does this look any better to you?
I tend to agree with you, the ones without the texture to me seems dead to me.

preset 2

Yes! Those look great! and the lighting does look good. But now try stretching the noise by about 25 or 33, to look less like noise and more like the thread you were going for. I think this filter will go HU.

preset 2 updated

there ya go; that's lookin better!

thank you very Betis for all your help
Here is present 9 a

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Kraellin wrote: there ya go; that's lookin better! Smile

Thank you very much Craig, it is getting closer to being finished. I just have 9 more preset to make and making sure everything is name correctly

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Betis wrote: Looks great! I have another idea for realism. If it doesn't add more than a second to render times, add a small refract mapped from the inverse height, and apply it to the noise, can you post the filter? Smile

Thank you Betis
I am not quite following you on the inverse height, not sure whate it is. Can you explain it to me in detail, thank you very much

I made the changes to the filter it added a few seconds to the render time, needs to do some trimmimg since the render time is 2 mintues and 18 seconds

I shaved 13 seconds off the rendering time, 2 minutes and 5 seconds that not to bad. To me it looks alot better

tight. i can practically see it being woven on loom/machine

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Kraellin wrote: tight. i can practically see it being woven on loom/machine Smile

Oh yea I will agree with Craig..This is looking beautiful MysticBlueRaven..

[quote]Betis wrote:
I just compared them in a way that I would be able to see any visual difference. There was none, nice Wink[/quote]
Thank you very much

[quote]Kraellin wrote:
tight. i can practically see it being woven on loom/machine Smile[/quote
Than you very much, Craig It is slowly getting there with all the helpfull tips from Betis

[quote]Betis wrote:
Maybe slightly less stretch IMO, but not necessary. Oh! How about make it a control? If it doesn't have too many already.[/quote]
Interesting idea Betis, this is a very simple filter with not a ton of controls

[quote]CFandM wrote:
Oh yea I will agree with Craig..This is looking beautiful MysticBlueRaven.[/quote]
Thank you very much CFandM


[quote]Betis wrote:
I hope by all my nagging, you realize that I love this filter so much I want it to express itself to the fullest extent, and am not just being picky. Wink Big grin[/quote]

You are not nagging Betis, you have given me very helpfull advise to help bring this filter to live up to its fullest potential. I appericate all tha advise you have given me. I made a few minor changes to the filter, I gotten rid of all the node that were not really doing anything for the presets, I add another colr control, to help give it more relistic look, decrease the surface height, took out the small refract mapped from the inverse height to the noise for right now.
Render time is 1 minute and 25 seconds

Here is a sample of preset 9

ok, in looking for pictures on google of actual lace, in order to have something to compare to, i ran across this site: http://www.dezeen.com/2007/08/07/lace...makersvan/ . i love stuff like this

sorry, i'll quit hijacking now

it's looking very good, lynn. i'd say, at this point, that if you want to make sure it's as good as you want it and as good as it shld be and all that, that you find some real lace to study, or good pictures of lace and go from there. that's what i was doing when i found that site i just posted. it's kind of interesting that there arent many, if any, high resolution pictures on google of lace. you would think there would be. the other option, of course, is to just go out and buy some lace and study from that.

and dont read anything into all of that that i'm telling you your texture needs work. i'm not saying that at all. i'm saying that my memory of what good lace would look like, at this point, is a poor substitute for going and looking at the real thing to even see if you need to do more.

anyways, it's a delightful piece!