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Iam Nemo
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Hi guys,

Well the title says it all:

Is FF Pro v. 1.015 compatible (as a plugin) to Corel Painter 11 ? What needs to be done if FF was installed before Painter ?

Thanks!
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GMM
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After v. 8, Corel changed the name from Painter to PHOTO-PAINT.
Filter Forge is fully compatible with Corel Painter 8 and IX, and Corel PHOTO-PAINT v. 10—X4
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Iam Nemo
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I might be mistaken but I think Painter 11 (eleven) is still a distinct product:

http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellit...9282603171

and is the one I am asking about. Thanks.
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GMM
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Uhm. Sorry, my mistake.

Filter Forge will work under Painter 11, but it is not installed automatically. You need FF's 8bf file: you can take it from the 'C:\Program Files\Filter Forge\Plugin' folder and put in the 'Plugins' folder in Painter.

Or just point Painter to use the 'C:\Program Files\Filter Forge\Plugin\Filter Forge.8bf' file.
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Iam Nemo
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Thanks GMM! It does work smile:-)

Note: You also need to copy the Filter "Forge.config" file from the 'C:\Program Files\Filter Forge\Plugin' folder and put in the 'Plugins' folder in Painter as well.
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GMM
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Iam Nemo, thanks for the valuable note smile:)
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SpaceRay
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This is very interesting and useful news, I did not know that you could also use FF with Corel painter 11 !!!! smile:)

And suposse and think that it will also work with the new Corel Painter 12.

I have to say that Corel Photo Paint is a very different product than Corel Painter.
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Kraellin
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just to be clear, there is no "Corel Photo Paint". it's "Corel Paintshop Pro X4" and FF works fine with it; pretty much all versions of FF and PSP work just fine together. however, to get it to work is different fr om photoshop. in psp you have to start up psp and set it manually as to wh ere to look for filter forge. once that's set you can call it up from the effects menu. FF will not automatically install in versions of psp after about version 9 or 10, i think it was.

i dont have corel painter so i cant speak to that, but the current version of that is 12.

as for photoshop, FF will pretty much install to it automatically if you already have photoshop installed when you install FF.
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GMM
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SpaceRay wrote:
And suposse and think that it will also work with the new Corel Painter 12.


People have been discussing plugin support for Painter 12 on other forums, and it seems Corel has discontinued support for plugins in Painter 12.
You can use certain tricks to make a 32-bit plugin work under a 32-bit version of Painter 12, but we will never add official support for a host application that doesn't officially support plugins.
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SpaceRay
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Kraellin wrote:
just to be clear, there is no "Corel Photo Paint". it's "Corel Paintshop Pro X4"


I am sorry but you are wrong

Are you really sure that there is NO Corel Photo Paint ? Then, Please, can you be so kind to tell me what is sold toghrther with Corel Draw ?

You can see it here in the Wikipedia ---> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corel_Photo-Paint

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Corel PHOTO-PAINT is a raster graphics editor developed and marketed by Corel included in CorelDRAW Graphics Suite. As a component of the CorelDRAW Graphics Suite, Photo-Paint can exchange data with other programs in the suite


And of course you can see it also in the Corel Website as seen here

http://www.corel.com/corel/product/in...70089#tab3

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CorelDRAW Graphics Suite X5

What's Included

CorelDRAW® X5
Intuitive vector illustration and page layout software

Corel® PHOTO-PAINT™ X5
Professional image-editing application specifically designed for use in a graphics workflow

Corel® PowerTRACE™ X5
Bitmap-to-vector file conversion tool

Corel CAPTUREâ„¢ X5
One-click screen capture utility
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SpaceRay
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GMM wrote:

People have been discussing plugin support for Painter 12 on other forums, and it seems Corel has discontinued support for plugins in Painter 12.
You can use certain tricks to make a 32-bit plugin work under a 32-bit version of Painter 12, but we will never add official support for a host application that doesn't officially support plugins


Thanks for your answer and the news that I did not know about this, very interesting to see this thread in Corel Painter Factory forum, it seems that is not clear about it, as you it seems that it works ONLY on 32 bits, and also if you make a folder and put there the plugins.

Of course, I agree that FF inc. and no other company would never support a host application that doesn´t support plugins by default and in a easy way.

I really have never used any plugin in Corel Painter, so it´s not really a problem, and you can use FF in Photoshop and standalone.
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http://www.corel.com/corel/allProducts.jsp

that is the official site for corel's 'all products'. that 'corel photo paint' is sold within another product, why ok.

and, i see nowhere on the corel site that you can buy it by itself. my guess is that it's an older product that they stuck into corel draw but left the name for recognition. and since there seems to be nowehere on the corel site where you can buy JUST corel photo paint, i stand by what i said before. paint shop pro also has corel's vector graphics as part of it, but i wouldnt call paint shop pro, paint shop pro plus photo paint and it looks like that's how corel is treating it also. they dont sell photo paint by itself. do a search on the site. that it once might have been a standalone seems evident by the various tutorial sites out there for it and you might be able to find a stand-alone version out there but corel doesnt sell it by itself any more; it's always a part of something else, at least as far as i can find with searches on corel.com.
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Kraellin wrote:

"just to be clear, there is no "Corel Photo Paint". it's "Corel Paintshop Pro X4"


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and, i see nowhere on the corel site that you can buy it by itself, since there seems to be nowehere on the corel site where you can buy JUST corel photo paint, i stand by what i said before.


I am sorry, BUT this is NOT the same thing, you said at first that there was NO "Corel Photo Paint" meaning as I undestand that it does not exist, and that it confused the name with "Corel Paintshop Pro X4" and now after you say that this is because Corel Photo Paint is not available to buy it as standalone software.

SO does this mean that if you can´t buy a software in it´s standalone version and JUST this software alone, means that this software DOES NOT EXIST ? And that this is a WRONG name because it must be called Corel Paintshop instead ???
smile:?: smile:?: smile:?:

I agree with you that is true and you are right that now in 2011 you CAN´T buy JUST Corel Photo Paint in the corel website (You can´t find it there) and must be bought included inside Corel Draw Suite, but this does not mean that this software is NOT available and it does not exist and only exist Corel Paintshop Pro.

DO YOU REALLY WANT TO BUY JUST AND ONLY COREL PHOTO PAINT ALONE ?
YOU CAN DO IT !!!


Although you are right and is true that inside Corel website you can´t buy it, IS NOT TRUE that you CAN´T buy it anywhere else in the world.

If you really want to buy it you can in the AMAZON store as Corel Photo Paint 10.0 and it will cost you 99.99$

Although this would be a stupid thing to do because this as you said, is an old version, and there is available the NEW Corel Photo Paint X5 included in the Corel Draw X5 Suite, and IT WOULD BE MUCH CHEAPER than the 100$ asked for Corel Photo Paint 10.

BUY COREL DRAW X5 for ONLY 45$

There is a educationa and academic version of COREL DRAW X5 SUITE sold on amazon for ONLY 45$ !!!!!!

AND EVEN another version that can be seen here for 85$

AND THE VERY IMPORTANT THING is that to be able to buy this YOU DO NOT NEED to be a student and show the student certificate to be able to use this software as it happens with Adobe products, you can buy it an use it as a home user, although is said that this can´t be used for using it in commercial businesses, but if you want it for your home this version is WAY much cheaper than the real one, and it includes all the same sofware, what is NOT included are all the other extras of fonts, graphics, photos, clip arts, templates,etc.
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SpaceRay
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GMM wrote:

After v. 8, Corel changed the name from Painter to PHOTO-PAINT.


Perhaps the confusion that you can have Kraellin, is that this said by GMM is NOT true.

I have to tell you GMM that this is wrong (perhaps you can explain it better)

Corel (as far as I know) NEVER changed the name of Corel Painter to Corel Photo Paint, this have been always different applications and have never been mixed or renamed.

COREL PAINTER HISTORY

In the History of Painter that can be seen in the wikipedia is shown that even with version 1.0 was called painter, and it remained the same until the new painter 12.

COREL PHOTO PAINT HISTORY

And with Corel Photo Paint is about the same and has not changed the same since the beginning in 1992 and now there is Photo Paint X5

Corel Photo Paint was included in Corel Draw 3.0 Software in 1992 as seen here in the wikipedia

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Ver. 3.0 (1992): Included Corel PHOTO-PAINT (for bitmap editing), CorelSHOW (for creating on-screen presentations), CorelCHART (for graphic charts), Mosaic and CorelTRACE (for vectorizing bitmaps). The inclusion of this software was the precedent for the actual graphic suites.


PAINTSHOP PRO HISTORY

Paint Shop Pro (PSP) is a raster graphics editor and, later in the series, a vector graphics editor for computers running the Microsoft Windows operating system that was originally published by Minneapolis-based Jasc Software.

In October 2004, Corel Corporation purchased Jasc Software and the distribution rights to Paint Shop Pro. PSP functionality can be extended by Photoshop-compatible plugins.

It has been called JASP Paint Shop Pro until version 9.0 when it was renamed as Corel Paint Shop Pro X and then X2, X3 and now X4.

You can see the full history in this link here from the wikipedia
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Kraellin
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i'm sorry, but effectively there is no corel photo paint. your link to amazon showing that it is available is kind of funny. i'll grant you that technically you're right, but effectively it's a dead product. amazon has had it listed since 2002 and shows it rated as #19868 and 'discontinued by manufacturer'. they also arent even sure if it's mac only or mac and pc. they list it both ways. so, like i say, technically, you're right, but effectively this is a dead product and is now incorporated into other programs by corel.

and, psp was not originally from Jasc Software. Jasc bought out the rights from the original author quite a few years ago. i know this because i had one of the early versions when it was still a free/shareware type program and it was catching on so Jasc bought the guy out. but back in versions like 4.12, which was my first version, it was still just the original author working on his own.
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