Reward Program: How does it work?

Check out this latest discussion (page 2 onwards).

As evident in that thread, the info provided on the reward program info-page clearly is vague enough to lead to great amounts of confusion and contradicting interpretations as to how the Reward Program actually works. Could we get an official clarification on this, please?!

ok, here's a question... if you have, say nine HU's at any given point, and then one falls off the HU list, are you still credited with a reward point for all nine? and, do HU's once they make HU, ever drop off the HU list, no longer being HU?

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I also read the reward system as 3 free copy, 5 lifetime upgrades not 8 needed for life time - other wise why cash in your 3 for the program and not wait to you get 5 then cash in for lifetime.....

That's how I read it too.

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Carl wrote: It does say somewhere in the reward info that once you recieve a HU that even if it drops to average you retain the point earned

Yeah, Bella said that in one of the other threads.....

It would make more business sense for FF to charge 3 high usage for the free copy.....then an additional 5 for the lifetime updates.....thereby draining the the lifeblood.....errr.....providing incentive for authors to create more and better filters LOL....

Hopefully FF knows I'm just kidding around.....ya gotta hand it to them.....great business plan to grow the filter library

I better reiterate Dilla's questions.....they are getting buried.....and I'm curious to know as well.....

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Crapadilla wrote: Check out this latest discussion (page 2 onwards); http://www.filterforge.com/forum/read...5&TID=3161 As evident in that thread, the info provided on the reward program info-page clearly is vague enough to lead to great amounts of confusion and contradicting interpretations as to how the Reward Program actually works. Could we get an official clarification on this, please?!

ya know, dilla, you now have me thinking about a 'reward-shop frontend' system.

3 filters = 1 free copy
5 filters = 1 lifetime upgrade to 1 licensed version of FF
8 filters = 1 copy of adobe photoshop
8 filters = 1 copy of macromedia studio
4 filters = groceries for a month for a family of two
2500 filters = 1 mercedes benz
25 filters = 1, 24 inch HD television
1 filter = 6 cases of your favorite imported beer
50 filters = an all expenses paid trip to Russia to meet the FF team
12 filters = 1 alienware top-end computer

etc, etc, etc. HU filters could become the new currency of the world

hehe, yes, i know. my scales are off too, i'm sure. but, the idea of it actually makes some sense, especially with some of the programs that would work well with FF, like photoshop or psp or macromedia or some 3d program. FF would, in essence, be expanding its own user base by promoting and rewarding those programs that FF works with or that FF's textures work with. so, though i was saying a lot of that tongue-in-cheek, there is some worth to the idea.

and, secondarily, it again rewards the FF users and keeps them motivated more than they might normally be. i mean, once you get a couple of licenses and perhaps a couple of lifetimes for those licenses, what's your motivation for continuing to contribute to the FF library? i mean, you and i and a few others are going to be around and contribute no matter what, but others may not. so, it's not as far-fetched as i first stated it.

and, taking it even a step further, what about cooperative programs with some of those other software companies? FF could cut some deals with adobe where FF awards adobe products and adobe does something along the same lines where adobe awards FF products. it makes some sense, no?

jffe, i'm not even going to go point by point with you on your last post. i havent heard this many invalidative generalities about a good product in quite some time and i find most of them lacking in value and i'm certainly in disagreement with most.

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Kraellin wrote: jffe, i'm not even going to go point by point with you on your last post. i havent heard this many invalidative generalities about a good product in quite some time and i find most of them lacking in value and i'm certainly in disagreement with most.

----Well, go ahead and explain away any of them. The only one that is really opinion-based, is the first one, and I admit that could be a hair off, as I do not know 100% of all the 3rd party photoshop filters available, but you can't tell me FF doesn't cover over at least 1/2 of them by now (I am not comparing other stand-alone apps here, just filters that are photoshop/psp compatible, which is really what FF should be, the stand-alone is just getting in the way as far as I can tell).
----As far as me misunderstanding Vlad's quotes, I'd say sure maybe, if he hadn't said basically the same thing twice (see the wiki for his quotes).
----As for the scaling problem, that *might* be just in the preview, but it's still a problem that needs to be addressed immediately if not sooner. (I have started a separate thread about it in the appropriate forum).
----The more I use FF, and learn some technical/professional details about what is needed to actually sell digital renders, I see more issues with FF. Don't get me wrong, it's way up the ladder, I'm just not sure why it's been out 6 months or so, and a ton of little things haven't been adjusted/fixed yet. I could care less about the Mac version myself not being a Mac owner, so meanwhile, we all sit here with a great toy that isn't really ready for prime time (yeah, I wanna do more than make myspace page graphics with it o.k., sue me ha-ha). If anything, this Pc version is a bad advertisement, and quite possibley they consider it a "beta", and only really care about making sure the Mac version lands running, then maybe they'll come back and patch up the Pc version and get it up to speed. I don't really know why they have gone 6 months or so now with no updates, but it's uhh, getting old waiting, mac version or not, because so far ALL there IS is a Pc version, and it needs work yesterday.

jffe

And please, don't get me wrong. I know I seem to complain a lot, but I am really just trying to get some stuff done, and point out what I see as some problems in an otherwise almost revolutionary program here. If FF ever reaches it's full potential, I still believe it could be a best seller up there with KPT and all the other big names in picture filtering, quite possibly surpassing many of them in the end. I am really only concerned about now though, not what's happening in 2 years, I have things to do now, and I feel that FF should be a little more concerned with the here-and-now, so I speak up on problems, and ask sometimes weird or pseudo-technical questions. But, I really do like FF, and hope they succeed, as frustrating as using the program, and waiting for answers and updates can be sometimes ha-ha.

jffe

Carl: Yes, the plugin part is small. It sends images in and out, along with gamma values and has some basic support for recording/playing back actions (in compatible plugin hosts like Adobe Photoshop).

jffe: I honestly do not see much redundancy in standalone version. The only difference it has is the ability to load and save image files. Cant see how this is "competing with PSP". Is any program that loads and saves image files automatically becomes PSP competitor? If yes, I predict Corel will be out of business very soon due to the free availability of IrfanView. Also, I seriously doubt that PSP or Photo-PAINT support floating-point file formats, which become more and more important in certain applications. Standalone version is an added bonus for advanced users, end of story.
Yes, I know that there are a lot of suggestions for improvements, but the current version is feature-locked, so planning to get any non-bugfix updates until 2.0 ships is not wise. Some small improvements will "slip through", but there will be no major updates for some time. And, the Mac version is being developed before 2.0, so I don't think you should be holding your breath at least for some time.

And a personal note, which is not to be interpreted as an official position of Filter Forge, Inc.
Your "way of getting stuff done" doesn't feel right to me. Maybe it's a problem with my interpretation, but it could be a problem with your way of expressing your thoughts.

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Kraellin wrote: 8 filters = 1 copy of adobe photoshop

That wouldn't be a bad idea at all.....if Adobe got involved in this.....I would think that it would be beneficial for both FF and Adobe

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Kraellin wrote: 4 filters = groceries for a month for a family of two 2500 filters = 1 mercedes benz 25 filters = 1, 24 inch HD television 1 filter = 6 cases of your favorite imported beer 50 filters = an all expenses paid trip to Russia to meet the FF team 12 filters = 1 alienware top-end computer

Good ones!!! LMAO.....