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StevieJ wrote: That's exactly what I wish FF would do with this.....take customers away from those sites and bring them here.....by selling all those FF texture results and copyrights separately from the program.....using it as an author incentive to bring in new authors and quality filter submissions.....creating profit for both FF and authors.....and while "magnetizing" and creating quite a "draw" to this program for sales..... Authors could also do creative PS work on their texture results and sell them along side of their straight results through their storefront here.....

And if FF does not choose to do that ... what then?

Speaking for myself, I have already joined the Partner Program and am prominently promoting FF on two of my sites. The results so far are one license purchase. If FF had a reseller program, I would be marketing it as I do collections and we would have probably generated ten to fifteen sales as a companion product to my ready-to-use collections in the same time period.

As much as you would like to think that good filters is what it's all about, and I am not putting down the value of good filters, the real name of the game is to get people to buy the program. That comes from advertising and marketing including giving attractive discounts to entities that can move product.

Right now FF is a well kept secret. Most people that I know have never heard of it. That's because most people, in my field at least, get their information from print catalogs put out by distributors servicing their type of business.

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StevieJ wrote: from an ever-decreasing 'time-is-money' justification to create something better than the growing amount existing filters.....

----That's exactly why FF won't do what us filter makers aren't doing, too much time for too little return, and additionally in FF's case = it would take away from their $99-$299 product.
----If Fred's numbers were better I'd have already signed up with him, as it is, I may attempt to open a royalty free graphics website later this year with a couple of local photographers as partners in it. Time will tell, and like Fred said (and I've been saying for at least 6 months now, no one knows about FF, cause they've done no advertising), so we all still have time.

jffe

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StevieJ wrote: Sounds cool.....I you don't mind me asking.....how do you make money off of sites like that......advertising???

----You sell them (dvdrs, or downloads if you want to go that route and can afford the monthly bandwidth), higher resolution renders. I'm not aware of anyone making Fred's kind of money off ads, not with their own personal website at least ha-ha.

jffe

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StevieJ wrote: Quote jffe wrote: I may attempt to open a royalty free graphics website later this year with a couple of local photographers as partners in it. Sounds cool.....I you don't mind me asking.....how do you make money off of sites like that......advertising???

Royalty Free does not mean the images are free. It just means that the license is not such that any other payment is ever due when you use the image. You still have to pay for a royalty free license.

Ah, playing with version 2 would take priority over it, eh???

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StevieJ wrote: Ah, playing with version 2 would take priority over it, eh???

----No, I need batch rendering or a 2nd computer, cause I ain't sitting around clicking a button after each render, and having like 5% of my cpu available for 1-4 hours at a time as they render. I also highly suspect the next update will be V1.5, but that's just a guess.

jffe

yeah, i wish they hadnt 'feature locked' the current 1.xx. i'd love to see a few easy additions done.

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StevieJ wrote: That's exactly what I wish FF would do with this.....take customers away from those sites and bring them here.....by selling all those FF texture results and copyrights separately from the program.....using it as an author incentive to bring in new authors and quality filter submissions.....creating profit for both FF and authors.....while also "magnetizing" and creating quite a "draw" to this program for sales.....

I've been thinking along these lines for some time.

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StevieJ wrote: I guess that I can stop my ongoing crusade about this and get back to work.....

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jffe wrote: are we talking about FF actually playing middleman to sell renders, like texture packs ?

Yup

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jffe wrote: I'm hyphenating everything anyways

isn't that what old rich white guy do

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i think you forgot the Cheekinator

To cheek or not to cheek that is the question




- and the answer is Banana

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StevieJ wrote: Any newcomers looking at this "Cheek" stuff must think we are complete morons

Well the regulars think it, so, we better stop it now - FF cheek free zone from now on.................. anyway you and craig started it I will now align my world view with jffe

LOL [ I'm 6" 2 ] and I'll bring the vodka and we can stumble off into the sunset together, two poor old white guys reminiscing about the times when multi national conglomerate cared only about making the world a happier place and cheese didn't come in a can

CheezWiz!

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Kraellin wrote: CheezWiz!

Was that CheekWiz
Oh sorry its cheek free zone...

I feel much better now that CF is not denying his inner "cheek".... .....

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Carl proclaims!!!: Live cheekie or die trying!!! Four score and seven cheeks ago.....our forefathers.....

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Capt'n "you-lost-that-cheeky-feeling" Carl

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Carl wrote: CheekWatch

Is that anything like "BayWatch" with Pamela Anderson??? .....

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Carl wrote: classy as Baywatch

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