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Many, many images are not a size that is a neat integer aspect ratio (leading to the warning message when using seamless tiling). It would be nice if you could show the original, select a Crop tool that always snaps to an integer aspect ratio, and crop the image non-destructively. This crop area would then be the basis for the Image component. This way the crop would always work seamlessly and you could show the original and move or recrop on-the-fly.
Any thoughts?
Jim
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| Posted: April 15, 2010 11:15 am |
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Kraellin
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hmmm, good points. you actually could write a routine in FF to do some of that. the trick would be ensuring that it was a correct aspect ratio. so, it might be nice if your 'cropper' showed the aspect ratio numbers, too.
or, you could use one of the many zoom filters to enlarge the image and thus fake a crop, but i think that still keeps the aspect ratio intact that you started with.
so, let me ask you this, would you prefer your cropper to do a resize/reshape of the aspect ratio, thus skewing the image a bit, or would you just like to cut off unwanted edges somewhere? If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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| Posted: April 15, 2010 4:44 pm |
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I imagine it cutting off edges as needed.
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| Posted: April 15, 2010 10:13 pm |
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When "Show Original" is on you see the full image.
You see the crop area when the Crop Tool is chosen.
The Crop Tool snaps to an integer aspect ratio, dynamically reporting the dimensions and ratio as you adjust it.
This crop area is resizable and repositionable.
• Possibility of saving crop areas
• Possibility of having some predefined crop areas to choose from - with the option of adding User defined ones
Well here is a quick mockup anyways…
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| Posted: April 15, 2010 10:42 pm |
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KGtheway2B
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That cropped sand looks like cleavage!
lol
I'm pretty "meh" on this idea. It doesn't seem very useful or novel, it's just a timesaver for what I imagine to be a fairly niche crowd.
Since there are so many other options to re-size the image, I can't imagine this ever being a priority. I think the introduction of support for non seamless images will help alleviate the number of times you get the warning.
That said, do you actually ever use non squared seamless tiles? (Or do you just find yourself importing the images to use as seeds for outputs and get frustrated when you forget to crop them?)
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| Posted: April 16, 2010 12:30 am |
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1. Seamless tiling is "for a niche crowd"?  BTW, I work in an environment where salespeople actually use seamlessness in our artwork as a selling point!
2. This isn't about resizing, it's about allowing the User to dynamically use subsections of an image as the basis for seamless tiling without having to destructively crop a source image. |
| Posted: April 16, 2010 6:49 am |
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Kraellin
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ok, i see now. so, what you want is like a selection tool. psp's selection tool does just about everything you're talking about here, including reporting the actual size of the selection and the aspect ratio. yes, it would be handy, especially if you could just save off the selection as a new image.
and, if you also added in one of my suggestions to that, it would be even better. i've always wanted a numeric display of the file size and image size of an image about to be saved so i could compress an image down to an image limit size like the 'save for web' option in photoshop and the similar 'optimization' routine in paint shop pro. this would allow you to know ahead of time what the file size is going to be before you save. otherwise, you have to take another step of opening your graphic editor and cropping and compressing things down. If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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| Posted: April 16, 2010 7:56 am |
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@Craig:
Yeah, you could optionally save the selection as a new image too but part of the utility of my idea is note having to save out new images as Crop seeds (sounds like agricultural radio now ). I envision the Crop area to be live - you can adjust size and position, recrop, etc. all while leaving the original image intact. Committing the Crop area doesn't crop the actual image, FF would just use the Crop area as the seed for seamless tiling. Make sense?
And +2 on the file dimensions and size info being displayed. That would be very handy! |
| Posted: April 16, 2010 8:21 am |
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Kraellin
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ah, using it for seamless. ok, now i see the method of your madness!  excellent idea! If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
| Posted: April 16, 2010 8:33 am |
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