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Skybase
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Dear Filter Forge,
Hello. I need you to do something that will save me and probably others A LOT of time. Please consider adding initial states for each component. Sometimes, you have components like the 3 color gradient which already comes with colors and values that's valued little to our needs for our effects and generators. It will also give us the opportunity to reset components immediately if something doesn't suit us right while we're tweaking values.

- Sincerely yours, a long time user.

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Skybase
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I actually think this would be very very useful.

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SpaceRay
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If I understand well you want to be able to set your own default values for each of the components and not have this useless values that they have usually now on most of the components.

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Hello. I need you to do something that will save me and probably others A LOT of time. Please consider adding initial states for each component.


YES, I agree with you that this would be able to save A LOT of time, specially when adding big components like bomber or the annoying controls that default to a useless 30 value

Please, be able to define components default, change or duplicate them

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One thing I find annoying, time wasting, and bad fr om my point of view, is that when you apply a component, much specially the controls Slider and IntSlider components they have a value of 30 as default and this gives many errors when added the components unless you correct it and reduce it to 0 or rise it to 100.

I know that there can´t be a single default that will work for all but at least it could have a default that is 0 or 100 and not 30. What is the reason that is 30?


Please, read the full post on the link as there is much more as you can see here (each one is detailed and explained)

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I have thought some suggestions and ideas that could help for this

1 - Component autodetect where is attached to and configure itself

2 - Be able to define your own single default value

3 - Be able to have presets values for the components

4 - Be able to duplicate a component to have copies with different default values


This would be REALLY helpful and useful to have in FF4.0
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Skybase
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I thought I'd bring up the ancient suggestion in a different form.

Well here's another one that's a bit more trivial!!

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Skybase
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Suggestion forum but with pictures! Ok I'm done.

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ThreeDee
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Skybase wrote: Please consider adding initial states for each component.


This would be very good.

To get around this in the meanwhile, you (as in "the user") could make a "filter" that had your default settings for all the components that you want and always start with that filter as a base -- sort of like a template. I know it is not ideal, but perhaps worth considering.
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Sharandra
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Skybase wrote: Please consider adding initial states for each component.

+1

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Skybase
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Let me bring this up again smile:p

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uberzev
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Very nice ideas. smile8)
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Morgantao
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Some great suggestions!
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SpaceRay
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Very well done and interesting thread for FF 4.0 if at least something of this would be possible

Great ideas and suggestions
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SpaceRay
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I agree in that it would be very good and timesaving to be able to do this (If I understand right what this is) as suggested by Skybase above


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Skybase
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Yeah, as far as I understand the reasons after some discussion (elsewhere) for doing that, is so you can see it actually working. Which, if you're a first-time user would see some values doing what they're meant to do. This actually makes sense and it's agreeable. Once you kinda go through the program, it does become a mild hinderance.

Several other patch-based programs that I use do have "working state" and "init" state as part of it's function. For example, in Propellerhead Reason they have synthesizers, drum machines, and other objects that load with already pre-configured patches. But the catch is they have a reset menu via right click.

So functionally, it would be handy to have functionality like right-click ---> initialize component.
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SpaceRay
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Sorry to ask but what you mean with "initialize component"

Would it mean that all the values are going to be zero, or have the default values?
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Skybase
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The 3-color gradient should default to Position 1 = 0, Postion 2 = 50, Position 3 = 100 and the lightness value for each color should correspond to positions (so black, gray, and white.)

For the 5-color gradient default should go incrementally by 25. So 0, 25, 50, 75, 100 (most logical to divide per number of sliders.)

The definition of default here is that it follows a certain type of logic, in my case, I vote more for numerical sequences that equally distribute the gradient rather than zeroing out every value. (This does depend on a component basis).

For any editor, zero-values tend to throw us off. You basically have to reset every value manually to what they were. So you have to have to pick reasonable values that don't force you to do more work.
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Sharandra
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So functionally, it would be handy to have functionality like right-click ---> initialize component.

+1
What I would also like to see is the option to reset individual values by rightclicking on the control somewhere.
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SpaceRay
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+1
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Sharandra
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This would really help to organize more complex filters smile:-)

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SpaceRay
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Ghostcat

This would really help to organize more complex filters


Oh, YES! YES! something like this you have shown would be really useful and helpful and would be much better to make filters in a more elegant, simpler and better way
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