Endless Base Noise

I think the grouped components will cover that. There's been discussion regarding sharing grouped components several times, so we can end up with a giant noise library if we worked at it all together.

I think the thing is, if grouped component sharing is ever implemented, it'll open a load of doors. The key here is the way it gets implemented. Depending on that, there will be new methods of doing something. That typically will generate itself a community. So to me, it's just a matter of how grouped components become something worth more, and the key is in sharing them. I think good products typically foster good communities, like this program itself has. So I personally don't doubt more community involvement as long as stuff's done right.

So I just like to think that one day the magical feature will happen and suddenly we get the noise library and everything else awesome.

I doubt there will be any movement anytime soon. Gotta stay humble sometimes.

I think in the mean time, there can be a fresh new version of the old noise thread where the rules are to post the ffxml file instead of just images teasing people.

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[...] but I don't believe the community is going to produce them...

Why do you think so?

The only thing that keeps me from submitting my noise lab experiments is the lack of a simple, elegant, easy-to-use, easily searchable and thus time-saving infrastructure for sharing Custom Components, preferably from inside the Filter Editor.

Once this is in place, the very time-consuming hassle of creating, testing and submitting a full-blown filter is removed and the floodgates will be opened. However, as it currently stands, the effort-to-benefit ratio of submitting noise snippets is just out of proportion.

Of course, attaching ffxml files to forum posts is easy, but doing it like this results in an inelegant, unstructured mess that tends to get buried in the forums quickly.

The purpose of my original noise lab thread then was to point out some of the methods behind the madness of noise experimentation, i.e. to get people to experiment for themselves. It was meant to get them to realize that all the building blocks are laid out before them already and that they would just have to get into the proper 'FF mindset' to utilize them. I specifically posted images and not ffxml files for that very reason.

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I know...I've read it... It will probably be that way...but I don't believe the community is going to produce them...

Don't underestimate communities. When I designed FF, I estimated the number of submitted filters at approximately 100 per year, and if I remember correctly, we were well over a thousand in the first several months. Also, I severely underestimated the sheer ingenuity of filter authors. There are filters in the Library that I wouldn't believe could be made with FF if you told me that 6 years ago.

Also, Wikipedia.

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Unless what you are talking about with the groups comes under a "Component Creater" where inputs, controls, profiles, formulas, etc can be set up under the same FF component

That's exactly what we're talking about: Custom components, which are enabled by the Component Grouping in FF4.

For example: What is now the filter "Noise Lab: Fabric" would become a single custom component.

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If Dilla submits a new filter...I'll match it...

Well, there is a certain filter I'd really like to finish one of these days, but this will only be possible once each and every feature request I ever made has been implemented...

Steve has seen the bright future of Component Grouping and will cease to request full noise libraries henceforth. Rejoice!