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uberzev
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I don't need the presets hogging most of the left collumn when I'm working with just one filter.
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Crapadilla
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Seconded. That could just be a little toggle that maximizes the control box by hiding the filter browser above it.
--- Crapadilla says: "Damn you, stupid redundant feature requests!" ;)
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uberzev
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This came up because I just made a sweet update to uberLENS. The problem is I have one too many user controls which causes the "Next Variant" button to be hidden by default. smile:(
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Kraellin
Kraellin

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what we need is tabbed browsing. i suggested this a while back. we have 3 panes open whenever we open FF, the filter list, the main viewing pane and the presets/controls/lighting/about pane. all of those could be put under a tabbed system at the top, just under the menu bar. you'd have 4 or 5 tabs and each would bring to the top one of those items. and there's lots of variations of this that would work.

actually, my original suggestion was more like, put the filter list on its own page and use the whole left portion of the screen for one thing, like the control panel. this would allow many more controls to be seen at one time.

and by putting the filter list on its own tab/page, you could treat it more like a normal windows file system thing, like windows explorer only dedicated to filters and their organization. you could then add categories, sort filters better, delete and so on. and have larger previews/thumbs for the filters

you could also do 'docking' of the various panes. instead of tabs you'd simply 'dock' a pane somewhere and have it open and close by mouse rollover.

so, there's lots of stuff that can be done to maximize the space.
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uberzev
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Vlad?
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Vladimir Golovin
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Yes, this may increase usability, but would it increase learnability -- especially during the crucial first 15 seconds of experience with the UI?
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uberzev
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Vladimir Golovin wrote:
Yes, this may increase usability, but would it increase learnability -- especially during the crucial first 15 seconds of experience with the UI?
Well it could be unobtrusive so that new users wouldn't even need to worry about it, or it could be disabled by default with an option to enable it.

This is my #1 most wanted feature right now.
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Vladimir Golovin
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uberzev wrote:
Well it could be unobtrusive so that new users wouldn't even need to worry about it


New users need three things on one screen -- filters, parameters and the preview. Otherwise they won't figure out that the program can do more than the Comic Book effect, or that the Comic Book has adjustable parameters, or that you can preview it on your picture (as opposed to a thumbnail in the list). Remember the 600x600 problem.
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Kraellin
Kraellin

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vlad,

i do agree with your basic principle of showing the 3 main features, but couldnt it be made like windows, where each of those 3 items is a separate, scalable window? each window would have a minimize/maximize button or something and be scalable in both the horizontal and vertical. new users would get the benefit of what you're saying and we 'old users' would get the additional function we're looking for.
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SpaceRay
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This was already suggested in February 2007 and in September 2011 is still not added to Filter Forge because there is no way to modify, enlarge, tag, minimize, maximize, expand or customize any parts of the user interface, all is fix to one block, can´t have a separate preview window or any of the user interface panes and is only a whole window block, and only the whole window can be resized but not able to be dettached, seprate or resize any part.

And with a big monitor, 24 to 30 inch this is loosing much and is missing many things not being able to customize the user interface and make it bigger to you liking in a resizable options panes.

The FF team is making a great work with FF 3.0 BUT it seems that the FF team is focused in improving the features but do not care much to improve the user interface.

I like very much the suggestions of Kraellin

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Kraellin wrote:

what we need is tabbed browsing. i suggested this a while back. we have 3 panes open whenever we open FF, the filter list, the main viewing pane and the presets/controls/lighting/about pane. all of those could be put under a tabbed system at the top, just under the menu bar. you'd have 4 or 5 tabs and each would bring to the top one of those items. and there's lots of variations of this that would work.

actually, my original suggestion was more like, put the filter list on its own page and use the whole left portion of the screen for one thing, like the control panel. this would allow many more controls to be seen at one time.

and by putting the filter list on its own tab/page, you could treat it more like a normal windows file system thing, like windows explorer only dedicated to filters and their organization. you could then add categories, sort filters better, delete and so on. and have larger previews/thumbs for the filters

you could also do 'docking' of the various panes. instead of tabs you'd simply 'dock' a pane somewhere and have it open and close by mouse rollover.

so, there's lots of stuff that can be done to maximize the space.
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lipebianc
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Vladimir Golovin wrote:
Yes, this may increase usability, but would it increase learnability -- especially during the crucial first 15 seconds of experience with the UI?


Maybe advanced users could activate tabbed browsing in TOOLS>OPTIONS, so by default new users see the traditional UI, but later can change that to this alternative tabbed mode...
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SpaceRay
SpaceRay

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This was already suggested in February 2007 and in August 2011 is still not added to Filter Forge becuase there is no way to modify, enlarge, expand or customize any parts of the user interface, all is fix to one block, can´t have a separate preview window or any of the user interface panes and is only a whole window block, and only the whole window can be resized but not able to be dettached, seprate or resize any part.

There is no tabbed browsing or anything similar

And with a big monitor, 24 to 30 inch this is loosing much and is missing many things not being able to customize the user interface and make it bigger to you liking in a resizable options panes.

The FF team is making a great work with FF 3.0 BUT it seems that the FF team is focused in improving the features but do not care much to improve the user interface.
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lipebianc
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SpaceRay wrote:
improve the user interface


Advanced UI features (resizable panes/docks, tabbed browsing, filter folder creation, etc) for advanced users is a MUST HAVE on FF.

Many apps have their BASIC and ADVANCED modes, FF should have something like that...
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