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[i.e. I really like it the way it is!]

I have to say (again).....having only one "Comments on Filters" string in the Forum is extremely limitting. I think most viewers just scan the first group of filters at the top of the first page.....and with many new filters being submitted everyday and people trying to promote those filters along with their existing ones, everything gets burried and forgotten way too quickly....

So why not additional "Comments on Filters" stings by catagory so more people can get exposure on their filters??? .....instead of everyone having to jocky for the top spots in one string to get exposure.....which is clearly giving rise to the use of sock-puppet accounts to keep posts on top.....

it's a mixed bag, steve. you can already search the library and see the presets. so, that part's taken care of.

the linear aspect of a single forum also has the advantage of exposing folks to all sorts of other filters than the one they may be wanting to find.

so, i tend to agree with dilla on this one.

Rather than dividing up the 'Comments on Filters' forum category, this kind of functionality could be provided by an advanced filter library search feature. You could then constrain your search to 'new' filters within the 'building' category for example...

So, in conclusion:

- Expanding the Comments forum: -1
- Adding extended Filter Library Search features: +1

Does that leave my idea as the contingency

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Crapadilla wrote: You could then constrain your search to 'new' filters within the 'building' category for example...

Too bad search criteria couldn't be programmed by catagory and date.....because this sounds like a good idea that would be often used.....

I still think dividing the "Comments on Filters" string by catagories is a good idea to help prolong exposure for new and updated filters.....which is also a crucial promotional tool for authors who are trying to obtain the free copy. Filters get burried and forgotten much too fast with only one string.....and it happens in a heartbeat when one author decides to put some persistent energy into promoting their filters. You can hardly blame them for trying to take advantage of it, but it ends up being at the expense of everyone else who wants exposure on their filters too....

So, in conclusion It would not hurt anything....and would clearly help authors and users by having the "Comments on Filters" string divided into idividual strings by catagory.....

Meeting adjurned What??? You're not going to let me have the last word on this one??? LOL....

Well, of coarse, I can only speak for myself and how I would prefer to have it more efficient as a user.....but everyone is different with how they navagate thru sites like this.....

Hmmmmm......three against one.....going down in flames.....I'm going to need some backup opinions to help me out on this one.....where are my sock-puppet accounts LOL....

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Redcap wrote: I wouldn't care at all if filter forge got bomber particles if it meant that the time spent making the advancments to the program meant neglect of the forum; but that is just me

Definitely!!! Forget about the Forum if it would dig into getting program goodies!!! I haven't totally lost my mind yet LOL....

You resemble that remark, eh??? LOL....

With 3,000+ filters, I doubt anyone but filter makers bother to bask in the glory of the lower half of the forums ha-ha. If I was new to FF, I wouldn't bother. You want more exposure (or anyone for that matter) ? Use better keywords, and do more updates to old filters, pad them with one new feature at a time if you so desire. Or better yet, make better filters. In time, it will all sort itself out anyways.

jffe

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StevieJ wrote: because every time one of my filters goes there, it gets another chunk of downloads.....so there must be "lurker users" around

----Sure, compare the number of thread views to the # of posts in that thread, easy to see there must be quite a number of lurkers. In time, like with most forums, private or not, the # of lurkers will be multiple times the number of reguar post-ers.
----And just because someone downloads a filter, doesn't mean they use it. Lots of Low Usage filters have 200+ downloads, and meanwhile, I've had (or at least seen for sure) ones with under 100 downloads go HU.

jffe

I think this is needed more and more everyday!!! You have multiple authors trying to keep their filters on top of one "comments on filters" string.....a much utilized exposure tool that is needlessly and severely limitted. Having multiple "comments on filters" strings by catagory would drastically reduce the "competitive" posting for the top positions of one string, more filters would get exposure at the top of multiple strings, and it would make it much more effeicient for users to view the most recent comments on filters in their particular field.....

Let's get real.....no serious users are going to scan past the first handfull of filters.....nor are they going to waste their time sifting through all the different types of filters piled into one into one string looking for the filters in their field.....

I think having multiple strings by catagory would actually make it a much more efficient tool for users.....and with more users utilizing it, more authors will get more exposure on more filters......

.....but lockable controls, customizable components, and lighting first

Okay.....

Dilla and Craig are NAs.....

Foxxee and I are YAs.....

Red and Jffe are sorta on the fence......

Vlad hasn't really weighed in on what he thinks of it.....

We have a tie ball game

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Carl wrote: I wonder if the user cares whats said in threads apart from possibly filter use samples pics [ probable not even that ]

Definitely not with everything piled in one string like it is.....but I think they would if filter comments were separated by catagory.....then the user could go right to their fiield of interest and see what's new and what filters are drawing attention.....

I do think some users are looking at the top handfull of filters in the "one" comment string.....because when I pop one of mine up there, it gets more downloads. Unfortunately, when someone decides to take advantage of this and "game" their filters to the top of the string, it's at everyone else's expense. Having it done as I suggested would greatly alleviate this problem.....

Throwing all different types of filters together and "Bottle-necking" all of them in one string is beyond ridiculous......in my humble opinion Filters are divided by catagory to make types easier to find.....divided into catagories when downloaded.....everyone wants folder options for better organization.....so why wouldn't organizing filter comments be a good idea, eh??? I would bet my bottom dollar that users would utilize it alot more as a tool if done that way.....because I would!!!

Finally, FF is choosing the Editor's Picks and manipulating filters to appear at the top of keyword searches......so my idea would greatly "even the playing field" for everyone so to say......

Yeah, but if the comments were divided by catagory, would you start checking the string in your field of particular interest......of course you would!!! Oooops, maybe I should allow you to answer the question

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StevieJ wrote: ......of course you would!!!

No , No I wouldn't, I check comments from a author point of view, and from a friends involvement - maybe I'm alone and your completly right you certainly are more informed about forum stuff than me - but you have to admit people get HU without saying a word and vice versus

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StevieJ wrote: but wouldn't you agree that it would more likely be utilized by users??? Just agree with me

No, No. No

la la la ***fingers in ears*** la la la......I can't hear you LOL....

Hey Foxxee, that was for Carl

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Foxxee wrote: At least someone is thinking outside of themselves, and that's what's going to make all of us flourish or stagnate.

Don't start me on Freud

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Foxxee wrote: But wouldn't it be nice for those of us who are making the filters too? It does get (and has gotten) hectic as he said.

It would still be hectic just spread out more

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StevieJ wrote: la la la ***fingers in ears*** la la la......I can't hear you LOL....

This give me the perfect opportunity to say something to you.............

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Carl wrote: It would still be hectic just spread out more

So??? It would at least be organized..... Say you wanted to see what's going on for new filters in the "Building" catagory.....there's no way to find out the newest filters thru a search.....and you certainly aren't going to start reading thru the kitchen sink pile in the filters comments. My way would make it easy.....just pop open the forum and go to the "Comments on Filters: Building" string.....and there you are!!!

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Carl wrote: This give me the perfect opportunity to say something to you

This could be bad, eh??? LOL....

Thanx Foxxee

Bad Carl, bad LOL..... just playing as usual, buddy

I actually do read the top of the comments sometimes to see what's new.....and to see what's getting attention because it's usually an indicator of good work. My idea would let serious users skip the filters that they have no need for......and go right to the ones they have use for....

Carl, you loose......two against one LMAO...... Was that a Freudian slip??? LOL....