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StevieJ
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I just thought of a business idea for FF.....that I think would turn the FF site into a bustling metropolis of filter authors, artists, designers, game developers, etc......bring in waves of new authors and quality filters by providing incentive rewards beyond achieving Lifetime updates......provide the means by which authors can make money off of their own filters.....increase the "visability" and "exposure" of FF by becoming a much more popular graphics hub/community on the internet.....and thereby drastically increase the sales of this program.....
SUGGESTION: At achieving somewhere between 3x and 4x lifetime updates (15-20 reward points), FF offers a reward option to authors with a hosted internet site itegrated into the FF site, basic website creation tools, and a certain amount of server space for galleries, etc......by which authors can promote themselves, their work, filters, textures, and have the means by which to take advantage of the upcoming EULA "copyright" changes to make money off of their own filters.....just like FF wants them to do..... Further rewards could be enhanced features on the website, increased server space, etc...... Steve
"Buzzards gotta eat...same as worms..." - Clint :) |
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Posted: December 20, 2007 1:18 pm | ||||||||
StevieJ
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Steve
"Buzzards gotta eat...same as worms..." - Clint :) |
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Posted: December 20, 2007 11:23 pm | ||||||||
Kraellin
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like fred's idea of the double library, this one also would impose extra work and duties on the FF crew. that normally either means extra work for existing personnel or adding additional personnel. so, where's their incentive? If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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Posted: December 21, 2007 1:21 am | ||||||||
StevieJ
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Well, I think keeping good filtermakers submitting quality filters is pretty good incentive......along with everything else I mentioned towards increasing sales of the program
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Posted: December 21, 2007 2:59 am | ||||||||
Kraellin
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ok
![]() If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: December 21, 2007 9:01 am | ||||||||
StevieJ
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Craig, you surrendered much too easy on that one.....
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Posted: December 21, 2007 10:11 pm | ||||||||
Kraellin
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it's a suggestion. there's nothing to argue...but, we could argue about that if you want
![]() If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: December 21, 2007 11:22 pm | ||||||||
StevieJ
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Yeah, let's argue about not arguing.....
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"Buzzards gotta eat...same as worms..." - Clint :) |
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Posted: December 21, 2007 11:53 pm | ||||||||
Kraellin
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you cant argue about not arguing. that's like wanting to prevent folks from using your presets
![]() If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: December 22, 2007 12:58 am | ||||||||
StevieJ
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I want to argue that you can argue about not arguing!!!
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Don't get me going.....I've officially retired from FF Politics..... ![]() ![]() Steve
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Posted: December 22, 2007 4:26 pm | ||||||||
Carl
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I don't know weather you saw the old monty python classic where there is a number rooms offering different services such as arguments, compliments etc - the guy walk in and say I'm here for an argument the reply is no your not - your conversation remind me of it LOL
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Posted: December 22, 2007 7:45 pm | ||||||||
Kraellin
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lol, carl. yes, that was a classic.
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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Posted: December 23, 2007 10:00 am | ||||||||
StevieJ
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![]() ![]() Steve
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Posted: December 24, 2007 11:09 pm | ||||||||
CFandM
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No I didn't!!!! Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times! |
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Posted: December 24, 2007 11:17 pm | ||||||||
Kraellin
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hehe, steve
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Craig |
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Posted: December 25, 2007 12:42 am | ||||||||
Carl
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LMAO I can see I shouldn't have butted into there argument ![]() |
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Posted: December 25, 2007 3:41 am | ||||||||
StevieJ
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There was no argument.....I couldn't get Craig to argue anything
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Posted: December 26, 2007 2:40 am | ||||||||
Kraellin
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well, sure there was an arguement. we argued about not arguing...or something. btw, who's on first?
If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
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Posted: December 26, 2007 2:22 pm | ||||||||
Carl
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Thats right Steve so stop arguing with Craig
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Posted: December 26, 2007 7:38 pm | ||||||||
StevieJ
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To cheek or not to cheek.....that is the question.....
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Posted: December 26, 2007 10:43 pm | ||||||||
CFandM
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Cheekus Argumentus
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Posted: December 27, 2007 8:03 pm | ||||||||
CFandM
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Maybe move this thread to "Way OffTopic"
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Posted: December 27, 2007 8:04 pm | ||||||||
StevieJ
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Well, I thought that I started this string with a good idea....but apparently FF didn't think so.....
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Posted: December 27, 2007 11:19 pm | ||||||||
Carl
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LMAO
THere is some value to the suggestion or a variant of, there does seem to be a need for rewards alternative ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Posted: December 30, 2007 10:17 am | ||||||||
StevieJ
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking.....server space and website tools are negligible.....and it would "dangle a nice carrot" to bring in authors and have continuous quality filter submissions......
Steve
"Buzzards gotta eat...same as worms..." - Clint :) |
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Posted: December 30, 2007 4:15 pm | ||||||||
ahimsa
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That leaves me out. So basically you would like to see a library made up of Crapadilla, you, and a very few others. |
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Posted: December 31, 2007 4:09 am | ||||||||
StevieJ
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Since I didn't say anything that remotely resembles something like that.....???
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"Buzzards gotta eat...same as worms..." - Clint :) |
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Posted: December 31, 2007 4:38 am | ||||||||
ahimsa
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I am guessing that since your first post mentioned people having enough HUs for 3 - 5 upgrades in order to get this that your "have continuous quality filter submissions" would mean people whose filters get lots of HUs. That would be just a very few people. Didn't mean to upset you, sorry. |
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Posted: December 31, 2007 4:42 am | ||||||||
StevieJ
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It would be the incentive for more people to get involved, submit more quality filters for more HUs, and continue on instead of stopping when they get the program.....and that's all I meant by it......
Steve
"Buzzards gotta eat...same as worms..." - Clint :) |
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Posted: December 31, 2007 4:47 am | ||||||||
Carl
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Happy New Year
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Posted: December 31, 2007 4:49 am | ||||||||
ahimsa
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I submitted 55 filters total and many of them I considered quality, I ended up with 3 HUs and it took half a year. At that rate it would require me to submit another 165 filters and a year and a half of waiting time to have 12 HUs, minus one that I spent already.
Sorry I posted There are too many obstacles for the majority of us to be able to even get enough HUs to get one upgrade, let alone 3 - 5. All filters submitted to the library are accepted. Almost half of the filters are now considered LU. Anyone can download the filter and immediately save it as their own and the filter maker gets no credit at all for it's use. The collection of the stats can be shut off by the user and I would guess than many people prefer not to have this type of intrusion. |
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Posted: December 31, 2007 4:50 am | ||||||||
StevieJ
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Oh sorry, I'm not upset.....
I think it's all in the concept and "reading" what users want. For example, I'm currently doing various softlens filters because they are among the most commonly used effects and there is so much more that can be done that isn't in the library. The same with my recent B&W filters.....I looked through all of them in the library and only one filter started to get at the correct channel conversion methods.....and I know professional quality B&W conversion is popular and will get used..... Like I've said before.....I think you have many excellent filters.....but it's just that you have chosen concept types that are being done by alot of other authors.....and all of you are diluting the user base for those filters so all of them are going low. Check it out for yourself.....I think you have the only HU kaleido-pattern fabric filter that I've seen..... Steve
"Buzzards gotta eat...same as worms..." - Clint :) |
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Posted: December 31, 2007 2:23 pm | ||||||||
CFandM
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![]() ![]() Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times! |
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Posted: December 31, 2007 3:21 pm | ||||||||
CFandM
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Yep concept is the key.. ![]() Just like graphics and art be inspired by all that surrounds you....Thats where dilla gets his food from.. ![]() Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times! |
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Posted: December 31, 2007 3:26 pm | ||||||||
CFandM
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Well many of mine I consider quality but its not what is being downloaded and used at this point in time...Or they might never be used at all..Myself I try to do different types of filters to cover all areas..Also for the added bonus of knowledge... Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times! |
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Posted: December 31, 2007 3:41 pm | ||||||||
Kraellin
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http://www.filterforge.com/filters/553.html ![]() If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: December 31, 2007 9:45 pm | ||||||||
ahimsa
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There are and were close to 300 downloads on the ones I was thinking of. I don't feel like working for free on filters for a library system that is set up as it is. The obstacles I mentioned make it nearly impossible for many to get any HU's. As long as every filter sumitted gets accepted and people can save the filters as their own and we get no usage stats then, it will make sure only some filters ever make HU.
That's a fabric filter? Now I need to check that one out just to see what it does to a pic. ![]() Nope, not a fabric one, but I like some of the effects. Congratulations on your HU. ![]() |
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Posted: January 1, 2008 4:22 am | ||||||||
StevieJ
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Craig "the glory-stealer" Kraellin!!!
![]() ![]() Yeah, that's a fabric filter just like this one..... ![]() http://www.filterforge.com/filters/4519.html Steve
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Posted: January 1, 2008 10:31 am | ||||||||
ahimsa
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Nice fabric filter Steve!
![]() ![]() Of course we all know that this http://www.filterforge.com/filters/1375.html is the very best fabric filter of all time. ![]() |
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Posted: January 1, 2008 11:39 am | ||||||||
Kraellin
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yes, you shld be making patterns for quilters, steve
![]() and yeah, i'll admit it's not much of a fabric on mine, but hey, i tried ![]() If wishes were horses... there'd be a whole lot of horse crap to clean up!
Craig |
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Posted: January 1, 2008 1:09 pm | ||||||||
StevieJ
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LOL.....
![]() Hey guys.....ya gotta shamelessly plug them wherever and whenever you can, eh??? ![]() ![]() Steve
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Posted: January 1, 2008 1:32 pm | ||||||||
Carl
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I have my favorite fabric filter I found if you save a dozen images it even gives you that warm fuzzy feeling as if you were snuggled up in a big woolly blanket - but it only seem to work if you save at least 12 times
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Posted: January 1, 2008 7:53 pm | ||||||||
CFandM
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Yep gotta do that when you get a chance.. http://www.filterforge.com/filters/2025.html ![]() Stupid things happen to computers for stupid reasons at stupid times! |
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Posted: January 2, 2008 3:30 am | ||||||||
ahimsa
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I guess no one clicked on my link or you would have seen it wasn't one of mine. You guys are the only shameless ones.
![]() Steve, made an effect filter I will upload as soon as FF fixes whatever is broke here. Can't upload or download. |
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Posted: January 2, 2008 3:53 am | ||||||||
Omega3
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Hmmm...how did my name get into there? I really like the filter, but I don't remember starting a thread on it today (Comments on Filters). How do you guys do that?? lol |
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