Non-repeating tileable texture generation

Hiya!

I'd like it if Filter Forge were able to generate and output non-repeating tileable textures much like what Luxology's Imagesynth can do. And further more that we would be able to load external bitmaps of various formats to use and to generate these non-tileable textures with and also as a base to create new textures with and to mix with procedural textures we make with Filter Forge.

There's more when rendering out large resolution bitmaps based on procedurals things can really slow down alot.. if this could be speeded up a bit it'd be great. Although i'm aware of the complexity of this task.

One last question.. when's the next update due to be released ?

Keep up the good work!

/ Max

Maybe my explanation was a bit diffuse, sorry abou that. It's kinda like what you said Vladimir. It uses any image or part of a image and it creates a non-seamless of any resolution you want based on a couple of set paramters some some clever algorithm working behind the scenes which i assume takes that image and then pastes them so you get a non-repeating pattern in your generated image and then fades between those tiled copies of your image to create a smooth nice transition. it's difficult to describe, it has to be seen to be easier understood how it actually works. Take a look at their website and you can see how it operates and what it does, they have a good video there demonstrating it in action.

This technique is invaluable to us who needs to produce large resolution textures based on poor referencematerial for our 3d work. I used this to produce a large 4096x4096 grass texture based on a small bad photo i had. After it was done i had a great looking non-repeating texture

/ Max

Cool stuff! but there's absolutely no rush on anything like this, more like a wish for the future when the more important stuff is done if it would be possible to do later on then it's definately a great feature for 3d artists as we need seamless non-repeating tileable textures for our work and currently the only option i'm aware of is ImageSynth. So priority is not a worry.

Thanks for replying Vladimir, great feedback here from you guys

/ Max

Good point Mike!

Hmmm, I'm not sure what a tile set would be.

Do you mean something like what an old, sprite-based game would use (making a large image out of tiled smaller images)? If that's what you mean, then sort of - it's usually all up to the level designer, but there are a couple of ways to do it in most 3d apps.

You'd use these tiles more for walls, ceilings and floors - it's not as useful for terrain as these days you'll often alpha blend between two or more base textures to get a cheaper seamless finish. If you wanted to make a 256x1024 wall that used four different 256x256 images that tiled together, you could (and that's what I often do).

Another thing I do a lot is to create a room's floor, say 768x768, and apply a repeating texture, say 3 by 3 of a 256x256 texture; then change the texture of some (one or three) of the 256x256 segments to something more interesting. That way you can add interest without the generic texture looking too bogus when it repeats, and you can avoid adding many extra polygons.

Yep That's what I mean.

Yay! Now I'm not the only one making textures for games It really would be very handy - at the moment it's not too hard to make adjustments to a filter by hand, but doing many of them takes hours rather than minutes.

I guess as a workaround we can use the Frame component with a static outer edge and an inner section that can be varied using a Variation slider. Actually, that should work very nicely

Heh, there are people from iD Software[QUOTE]
Great then Im going to take a chance and holler out to them
maybe they will have more luck making a filter to auto create blood decals for their d3 engine then I'm having
also a while ago back I talked to brian harris and the folks at doom3world.org about the limitation in how textured lights are only rendered correctly from the z-axis my solution was to rotate the light on 2axis so that 3 axis where presented to the z axis (diamond shape) this worked the light then rendered the texture on all 6 planes problem is the texture is rotated accordingly and figureing out the proper profile gradient to alter a texture so that it shows up properly has eluded me maybe one of those geniuses can figure it out