Rotate

There is no built in funtion to rotate in FF. There are however several filters that do rotation.
Here is the fourm posting
http://www.filterforge.com/forum/read...10&TID=471

Here is the page with rotation filters
http://www.filterforge.com/filters/ca...page1.html

We didn't include the rotation and scaling because they break seamless tiling (this has been discussed numerous times at these forums). The short answer: to include rotation and scaling, a support for non-seamless filters must be added to Filter Forge. This requires a lot of work, so don't expect it anytime soon (it's currently planned for version 2.0).

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voldemort wrote: Dont you just hate newbie posts

No, not at all -- keep them coming!

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jffe wrote: if certain features, (like seamless tiling), not be available for every filter

Yes, this has been requested by many people. We will consider this for future releases. This is not an easy task though, since everything in Filter Forge (user interface, filter library, server code, even the design of the website) is built on an assumption that every filter supports seamless tiling. So it may take quite long to implement.

Interesting discussion.

From my very own blissfully unencumbered user-perspective on the inner technical workings of FF, it always seemed rather strange and somewhat unintuitive that rotation and scaling should be so hard to implement. What the node preview thumbnails present to the user I always speculated to be a kind of 'viewing window' into an infinite planar expanse of procedural soup so to say, already tileable, from which the final image is sampled. So, when rotating or scaling, you wouldn't rotate or scale the procedural soup, but rotate or zoom the 'viewing window' instead. My intuitive take on it, and - apparently - tragically false.

Now, from absorbing the different and often confusing discussions on this topic, it is obvious that the user community needs some sort of general technical introduction as to how FF goes about constructing images and ensuring seamlessness internally. How about a "Filter Forge under-the-hood" section in help wiki? That would make a good feature request!

Hmm, well, not to be a busybody or know it all, but in a way, it seems (pun?) the best solution might be 2 seamless tiling modes. Regular (high quality), and Forced (low quality), to cover all kinds of potential input. But the necessity of that really depends on your target market etc. I'm used to software not doing everything or being perfect til version 4.2 or so ha-ha, so for version 1, FF is already really cool and super stable, like as cool as most version 2's, and as stable as most version 3's.

jffe

Bump.

I really need a rotation method that doesn't scale the image as well. (As the current methods do)

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CFandM wrote: Did you ever try ByRos method. Rotate All Angles http://www.filterforge.com/forum/read...10&TID=471 Its on the 10th post down.

Wow that's amazing. Thanks for the link. (FF should still have this built in though )

Tell me what you guys think of my version...

http://www.filterforge.com/filters/1827.html

I still feel there should be a few default things with rotate being one of them definately. I know this and other things are possible but i feel it is far more complex to do some basic things than it should be.

My current must have/want list if anyones interested -

Rotate
Loading of multiple images
Grouping
Toolbox/Storage of groups
More default shapes
Fractal, Hair/Fur, Plant like Generators
Code based/User programmable module

If some of those get added sometime soon i think it will take things to the next level and we will see some very nice new filters for sure.

yup, nice list, james. add in more search and filter organizing features and we've got a new FF