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Sign Guy
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Here's a typical example on a Quadcore Win XP Pro PC at default standalone settings in Filter Forge 3. Image size is set to 600 x 600. Rendering of the default preview takes 2 minutes 48 seconds. Not counting any other activity, if I tweak the settings 10 times, my system will need 28 minutes just to show me the results.

If I turn off anti-aliasing, the preview time is less than 20% of the time needed for a 5 sampling (the default?). However, the selection of any other filter or preset turns the anti-aliasing back on. It seems to me that just adding a checkbox to Options to turn off the anti-aliasing there instead of on a filter/preset by filter/preset basis would be a big help.

Fred Weiss
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Sphinx.
Filter Optimizer

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AA settings are stored in the filter preset.

A global AA override menu would be really useful:
AA Off
AA Auto (the current mode)
AA Override (submenu with actual settings)
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Morgantao
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Never really thought about this, but this is a good request.
The option should be in a place easy to get to, like "show original", rather than inside the Edit > Options menu.
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SpaceRay
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Thanks Sign Guy, as Morgantao said, I never really thought that this was important and that this could help in some way to make a faster preview time.
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SpaceRay
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I have seen some filters that would be good to be had the AA override to turn it off and ALSO the feature to be able to apply AA when the AA is turn off in the preset without having to go the menu and activate, I mean that it should apply always AA until you turn it off or desactivate it, so you do not have to keep selecting it in the menu each time you choose a new preset or a new filter.
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Kraellin
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+1, fred!
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Betis
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Agreed, however imagine a cropped render where it only renders a specified rectangle of the image where you know you want to see changes? C4D has it as well as other places I'm sure. There's the possibility of some lame reason in the architecture that this can't work but it should be considered.
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Morgantao
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There's the possibility of some lame reason in the architecture that this can't work but it should be considered


It's already implemented in FF, to a degree. If you zoom waaaaay in on a small portion of the image, that area will be rendered and then anti-aliased, and only then the rest of the image would render.
You could zoom in on two or three areas of interest and zoom out to actual pixels to see the result without waiting for the whole image to render.

So, since it's allready possible for FF to prioritize a certain area, why not make it an official crop option?
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Betis
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oooh good point! smile:D
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SpaceRay
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Sign Guy wrote:
It seems to me that just adding a checkbox to Options to turn off the anti-aliasing there instead of on a filter/preset by filter/preset basis would be a big help.


This has been requested already in 2012 and in 2020 it is still not available

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Sign Guy wrote:
If I turn off anti-aliasing, the preview time is less than 20% of the time needed for a 5 sampling (the default?). However, the selection of any other filter or preset turns the anti-aliasing back on.


So I have thought that a possible alternative way to do it

1- Turn off the anti-aliasing while creating or testing the filter to save rendering time
So go to the menu Filter ---> Anti-Aliasing--> Off

2 - Save the presets (or convert the already available ones) with the anti-aliasing turned off so it will not be changed

3 - When you have finished the filter and is right, turn on again the antialiasing and save again the presets with this ON.

So it would be recommended to speed up the render preview, to have the anti-aliasing active only when you are really going to render the result to a file.
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