Selling a rendered Image
... use the software and use the filters. Certainly someone profits greatly from the filters...that someone is Filter Forge.
Bottom line is I get a bit tired of reading posts from "artists" that are acting like someone stole their greatest copyrighted work from a wall in a museum, reprinted it, and then made a fortune from it without compensation or credit. This is not what is happening here. People contribute the filters to the FF library willingly and voluntarily so they should expect ...
"All your filter are belong to someone else!"
... because I want to see FF flourish, grow, and keep enhancing the program for my own benefit.....and in order for this to happen, I believe FF needs to do everything they can to keep talented authors submitting quality filters.....by providing some clear copyright protection on filter construction and texture presets......so authors will feel secure in submitting their works and using FF as a marketing tool.....to showcase their talents, filters, and possibly sell the copyrights to their texture presets ...
Copyright question on filters
Author: anna22. I have no intent to sell any filters, or modify any filters but can I use a FF filter to alter my image (or photo), and sell the IMAGE?
Light version of FF and comercial FF filters
Author: Vladimir Golovin. "Persidio wrote:
and he has no idea that it was your target audience that initiated the crackdown on copyrights. "
I always thought that this was music industry (RIAA in particular), MP3 players and file-sharing networks.
Upcoming EULA changes, round 3
... possibility of having filter authors after them. Now THIS will hurt FF far, far more than the proposed restrictions.
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Excellent points, Genie. I am still waiting for the answer to your first point. Where does my gingham stand? Can someone copyright gingham? Can I use the gingham I made? There are also very many basic filter in the library and the textures they produce can not possibly be copyrighted as it is quite possible that millions of others can come up with the same combination that ...
Carl's Corner :)
... more than welcome to post here 8) and you type like a banshee LOL :D
Many of us at FF are greatly dishearten by the exploiters and to now here that they are stealing images from the threads makes me reluctant to post Wips which we do own/retain the copyrights to - Does Linden do anything about copyright infringements if pointed out?
I again wish you the best with your project and will be compiling presets for you, which in amongst everything else may take a bit of time [ but not to long :) ] - ...
"All your filter are belong to someone else!"
... particular illustration would belong to the filter. Again, mention in production credits type of thing.
Now consider this scenario: Someone takes a demo version of Filter Forge, downloads 25 filters, renders them out, puts them up for sale as their own copyrighted work without any additional modification or their own creativity (asside from trying to sell them). In this case, it's the filter creator and Filter Forge that did most of the work. (Transfer of copyrights by attrition... LOL, I don't think ...
Regarding Copyrights...
Author: Rachel Duim. https://www.filterforge.com/forum/read.php?FID=19&TID=16869
An answer from Vlad on the copyright/ model question. Check out the Ultraforge area in the forums for more Q&A on the implementation of AI etc in UF.
Carl's Corner :)
Author: Kraellin. it might be real interesting if vlad changed the number of presets allowed on a filter. like, if it was unlimited again, you could add 2000 presets to your filter submission and they would all be copyrighted by the author ;)
"All your filter are belong to someone else!"
Author: StevieJ. Hey Fred.....if FF is not going to allow authors copyright protection on preset images, then this whole discussion is now totally mute.....and the EULA doesn't even need to be changed at all.....
Paper Art Frame 2 by Persidio
Author: Presidio. Paper Art Frame Version 2 Version 1 is here. (http://www.filterforge.com/filters/2729.html)
The cat is Pizwit. The photo is copyright to Laura Vitale and used with permission.
A plain photo for comparision.
Click to view the larger image.
adding external images
... Is curious that in the Filter Submission Guidelines (http://filterforge.com/more/guidelines.html) there is nothing about that you ONLY can submit filters with the built-in images previews and CAN´T use any external images.
It´s not only the copyright problem. I think that there is a bigger and more important problem, and is that the filters are small XML files, that take a very few Kbytes, so if external images was allowed it would rise MUCH the size of the file this filter would carry and ...
Upcoming EULA changes, round two
... "Conniekat8 wrote:
You mean sort of like when I design a logo, I have to make sure I don't design something that looks like Nike, or Adidas, or At&T or many other instantly recognizeable logos? Sounds like business as usual in world of graphics and copyrights."
That´s a completely different case. But Fred explained it better than I could. But all of this discussion is far from being business as usual, since in my 10+ years in graphics, I never saw such reactions to unmodified filter use....
geophysical bumpmaps
... allow semi-hdri effects on simple filters. or maybe the imported image would have to be a bit larger, maybe 1024 x 1024. not sure. or maybe the image size wouldnt matter that much, except in the speed of rendering.
but yes, you are right about the copyright part. and i dont see a good way around that except as you say, allow this for user's filters only. if you had stock imports then versatility is lost. if you allow it for uploaded filters, then copyrights would inevitably be violated by someone....
Upcoming EULA changes, round two
... "Conniekat8 wrote:
You mean sort of like when I design a logo, I have to make sure I don't design something that looks like Nike, or Adidas, or At&T or many other instantly recognizeable logos? Sounds like business as usual in world of graphics and copyrights."
Not really. You are classifying mathematically generated pixels which might or might not be subject to copyrights the same as the much higher standard applied to trademarks. The standard used in most trademark infringement cases is ...
LAB#3015 Skybase
Author: Skybase. Randomness can introduce unique variabilities. The variables can also be animated to produce unique animated pieces. (I'll produce the demos in the near future.)
Note that this filter won't be available publicly due to copyright.
Copyright or Not?
Author: Tayalex. When I use a filter and the outcome is completely different because it's being used on a texture of mine or because of changing all the settings ... is the "texture" them mine, to do what I want with it or are there still restrictions?
Full Noise Library
Author: TBH-1138. "StevieJ wrote:
there being no author copyright protection on straight texture results (allowing anyone to hyjack them fr om here even without having the program)"
I saw SolarGen being used in a couple of places. I don't mind. ;)
is this allowed?
Author: The Untaimed. http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-2389128.html
http://www.filterforge.com/filters/871.html
to me selling high def renders from filterforge seams to defeat the object of the plugin and also breaking copyright of the designer of the plugin...
