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GMM
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Hi guys and gals,

With FF 4.0 in active development, we don't have much resources for older versions. In particular, we are somewhat reluctant to update FF 1.0 so that it would conform to new filter submission requirements that are to be introduced in 4.0.

To my (personal) surprise Jffe certain filter authors still submit filters from the first version. So, my questions are:

- how many conservatives are there in the active community?
- would it be troublesome for you to switch to 2.0, 3.0 or 4.0?
- would you be willing to do a little bit of extra editing in 1.0 because certain component combinations will no longer be accepted by the server?

FYI: users with FF 1.0 constitute a single-digit percentage of our library server traffic.
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Crapadilla
lvl 52 Filter Weaver and Official "Filter Forge Seer"

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[...] new filter submission requirements that are to be introduced in 4.0.

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[...] certain component combinations will no longer be accepted by the server?


Could you elaborate on this?
--- Crapadilla says: "Damn you, stupid redundant feature requests!" ;)
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Vladimir Golovin
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GMM, is this about the situation where the server-side Problemator rejects filters submitted from versions prior to 4.0 due to the IntSlider range warning that was introduced with the new IntSlider?

In any case, a better way to figure this out would be via an SQL query to the filter database, something along the lines of: SHOW ME ALL FILTERS WHERE SUBMISSION DATE IS WITHIN RECENT 3 MONTHS AND VERSION IS LESS THAN 4.0.

(Or, if the version data isn't available as a field, and it should be, use a full-text search in filter's XML code: "... AND FFXML CONTAINS VERSION TAGS FOR FILTERFORGE V1 OR V2 OR V3.")
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Sphinx.
Filter Optimizer

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(I guess that must be FFSQL smile:-D)

I'd say as long as you offer a free upgrade path then this sort of change is ok.
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GMM
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Filter Forge, Inc
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is this about the situation where the server-side Problemator rejects filters


Yes.

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In any case, a better way to figure this out would be via an SQL query


Done that, I know for sure there are recent filters submitted from 1.0 — and I'd like to know the community response for that.
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SpaceRay
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Is there really many others using FF 1.0? FF 2.0 and FF 3.0 adds SO MUCH MORE to the program that is a great pity to keep using FF 1.0, I understand that some people maybe can´t pay the upgrade, but really is not expensive and even more considering the high upgrade discounts available, and it adds really MUCH more AND of course you can use MANY MORE THOUSANDS OF FILTERS.

I wish and want that the owners would be able to upgrade to a higher version to enjoy more about FF and do not keep using the old FF 1.0 and send them my best wishes
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GMM
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that is a great pity to keep using FF 1.0, I understand that some people maybe can´t pay the upgrade


The strange thing is that certain FF 1.0 authors have enough HU filters to buy themselves lifetime upgrades for the next several lives.
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GMM
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Could you elaborate on this?


Plugging Intslider to an input that would limit its range no longer works: [1], [2]. We will surely fix this in 3.0 but would prefer leaving 1.0 unchanged.

As I don't see much whining about that, conservative filter authors will probably need to upgrade to a later version or avoid plugging Intsliders into narrow inputs.
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SpaceRay
SpaceRay

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GMM

The strange thing is that certain FF 1.0 authors have enough HU filters to buy themselves lifetime upgrades for the next several lives.


smile:?: smile:?: smile:?: smile:eek: then if it is NOT a problem of paying the upgrade in this cases that you mention, HOW is possible that they do not upgrade and KEEP using FF 1.0? smile:eek: smile:?: smile:?: smile:?:

Perhaps instead of asking it here in the forum, if you know who they are, FF customer support could contact them as politely ask about their reasons and know more about this mistery.
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